Mat, wer in the leeds area, most users around here come to our traing meets and all are welcom we regular train up beginers, numbers are slowly rising we had 60 at one meet but only a few had ther own pjs so you can imagin how hard it was to let peeps hav a go, also we got a great vid that the BBC did for us it was on tv christmas eve, il post asap, il send you e mail, youl have to get up here soon and chil with us, Stevie.