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WHAT'S HAPPENING NEAR YOU => Bocking Clubs & Groups => E A Bockers => Topic started by: carlgreen on November 16, 2009, 06:27:55 PM
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Well guys and Gals, this is important
lets keep this short and sweet, over the last few weeks the EA bockers have under gone a big change, we have basically be able to ditch out old sponsors (SRH, rockwell and inner cooler) not that we did much for them anyway.
we have been offered sponsorship from an energy drink that is being released in the UK soon, it is already out in Europe, its called Life is Drive or LSD, for this we are required a display team. We don't want this to be a fighting issue as it has already been decided, basically sponsorship are only going to pay for certain amounts of people as they usually sponsor individuals, therefore they have asked that even thought they are sponsoring the group as a whole, that we only have 10 people in the display team. Also if a few people can't make it we will be letting others get involved and come to events. we would also still like to be an inviting group and if we are out and local to other groups we would like to possibly invite you out with us. as long as we are allowed or can get you along.
If your name is not below this should not be bad news, this should be something that should motivate you to work toward in the future there is space for more people, not being in this team does not make you any less of an EA than anybody in the team we are still going to be all about having fun and bocking together but we think this would be a good way of getting well known and maybe make bocking more noticed. we will hopefully be able to give most of you LSD t shirts (EAs only tho :P), these are simple T's that they are sending us we are unsure on when they will be, as they don't have any in stock at the moment. but as soon as we get them u are more than welcome to have one. when we make videos we wont only put the "team" in it, we want all EAs to be in the videos and pictures.
>Carl Green
>Ketan Mistry
>Alex Nurrish
>Paul Self
>Tim Wong
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If you have ANY problems or quires please let us know or if you are unhappy with something don't just let things go please let us know and we will try our up most to sort something out for you.
please contact Carl or Ketan asap and lets not make this an arguemental thread lets keep it clean any bad posts will be removed, so please PM us or catch us on Facebook or MSN
Carl & K8N
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this sound grate i think its going to b a spring board for us all
it would be good for us all to have a meet somewhere an discuss our ideas whether in person or a group chat ect
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lozzi
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wot r the flavours?
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Just the one flavour for now, new drink etc, tastes amazing though ;)
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how can i get some to try???
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1. it has a awesome after taste and makes u want more
2. i miss Carl :(
3. ketans fit.
4. this is a awesome opportunity and we owe Ketan a lot getting this saughted lets make the most of it guys and gals :)
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Well thanks for the comments so far :D lets just hope this all goes well and i hope everybody will be kool with it
XXX
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I miss the EA's, bockings not the same without you...
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Your still one of us tim mi love ;) xx
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Do any other EAs have anything to say, also comments from other people are welcome, let us know what you think
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kool. it all seems to make sence... && seems like a pretty kool thing too... not to sure bout the name of the drink tho... LSD... thts a bit ominous dont u think... lol
x CHAZZLE x
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well done you truly earned it go for it guys and girls
kool. it all seems to make sence... && seems like a pretty kool thing too... not to sure bout the name of the drink tho... LSD... thts a bit ominous dont u think... lol
x CHAZZLE x
yeah i think the name needs a rethink
p.s - if you ever need any help on anythink just give a shout just as long as paul doesnt go on my stilts :Ctongue:
but a big well done
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I think quite amusing to have a sponsor named LSD,
;D ;D
Naming a drink LSD is meant to controversial– people by things just on the branding. And I can see it be a hit with kids,,, but maybe not their parents
“All publicity is good publicity” right ? :thumbs:
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it contains no LSD and the can says life is drive on it not actually LSD but thanks for the comments
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We haven't got the power to rename a companies drink :L
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Well done guys :) Its awesome. Some seriously good sponsorship :)
This isn't much to do with that but to be more inclusive I think it would help if you posted more when you meet up. Not only for those that are already EA's but for those looking at the forum. If a group appears active it will encourage people to join in and feel part of the team.
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Considering that it's made in the Czech Republic, I suspect they have a different name for LSD over there so the company didn't make the connection.
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lol lynch yeh i stopped the whole going on other peoples stilts after that dark day :p
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i think meets will get discussed more only thing is the winter always means people go into hiding :P
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yeah..but there has been nothing for ages :(
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yh :( sorry i have been away for so long organising this with ketan and moving to wales took it out of me, but im here now ill be back for meets im sure but there will be more going on in the near future
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I will (hopefully) sort something out when i am back for xmas, from the 14th dec~ish. Weather dependant though. IF anyone is around nottingham and wants a bounce btw give me a shout :)
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good work ea's how can i get a can to try
blue jj's
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Cans to try aren't really available, we were sent a few but we have had to limit them and use them in specific ways sorry blue but it will be on sale soon
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At first we weren't bothered how it tasted, but honestly, its incredible, iv already enquired about UK sales dont you lot worry ;)
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i think meets will get discussed more only thing is the winter always means people go into hiding :P
its called hibernation xD
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thats the exact word i was looking for, :D thanks
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Sorry to double post but we have been put on there Team page now :Csmile:
http://www.lifeisdrive.com/team.html
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Nice pic of Ketan :Claugh:
Best part
The club is run by Carlos Fandango Green (Chairman)
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Hell yes its run by Mr.Fandango Green.
As for the pic i needed something that wasn't so much looking like me, i didn't want people thinking I'm the face of the EA Bockers :)
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Glad to see a decent sponser that will give something in return and being on the website already is amazing,
seen the pics of the t's that k8n put on FB other day there not my sorta thing if im honest but are good all the same.
I at the min am really busy with work im doing lots of overtime and when im not working im working on/ messing about with my car so all my time is going into that as i need to get new stilts anyways so will be hibernating thru the winter unless i get new stilts during the winter which may well happen but will keep checkin on forum and seein what is going on im not leaving just busy love you all
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yay!
The group consists of about 35 Members and some even living in Wales and Nottingham
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yay!
yeah but tim you now deep down you want to be a sky high boy!
The group consists of about 35 Members and some even living in Wales and Nottingham
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Tims an EA Thru and Thru booooyo Xx
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I've been corrected by Carl, Tims actually and ORIGINAL EA.
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Fo Shizzle ;)
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just wondering... the display team thingme... does it matter what skill level we are? coz i wudnt mind doing stuff but i cant do much on my stilts... but maybe it wud be good to have a range of skills in the display team coz this will show a progress to the public if you get what i mean... :Csmile:
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At the moment we have the display team sorted which will be announced soon, the problem with too many people is because sponsorship only pay for certain amount of peoples travel etc, this display team is for all events basically, but if the events local for example, norwich, then by all means people can turn up but will not be announced as the Display team.
The display team are signed with expix.co.uk ( will be on the site soon ) this is how we get our events, on the site well be advertised as 10 people so when other companies want us to perform theyll only expect 10 people, its really confusing and tough to explain sorry.
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Who is in the display team, doesnt really bother me greatly who is in it as i said i have winter comitments at the min so wont be about much any ways for awhile, just would like to know who is in it,
And same thing again me not really being botherd greatly til im back on the scene alot but will this not divide the group abit with the seperate meets for display team with the Display team turning in to the EA bockers and the others gettin put aside and collecting dust on a shelf ?
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Display team isnt a new group at all, its just 10 people representing the EA Bockers at the bigger events, as stated before, sponsorship will only pay for certain amount of people to go places. Meets wont be organised on the bases for display team or ea bockers, meets are for everyone.
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Display team isnt a new group at all, its just 10 people representing the EA Bockers at the bigger events, as stated before, sponsorship will only pay for certain amount of people to go places. Meets wont be organised on the bases for display team or ea bockers, meets are for everyone.
Not what I meant, some people may feel pushed aside and loose intrest because only some people are sponserd essential is what i meant
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I see why people may feel that way, the whole group is essentially sponsored by LSD, everybody will reek the benefits and you can all happily say your sponsored by an energy drink.
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How did you get the sponsor?? because there is loads of industry like that down here and i might try and get the RR's sponsored :P
DC
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Basically just knew the right people, hard to explain but months of emailing and promises i suppose. sorry i cant give you a better answer :L
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Display team isnt a new group at all, its just 10 people representing the EA Bockers at the bigger events, as stated before, sponsorship will only pay for certain amount of people to go places. Meets wont be organised on the bases for display team or ea bockers, meets are for everyone.
Not what I meant, some people may feel pushed aside and loose intrest because only some people are sponserd essential is what i meant
tbh iv felt that the EAs have been divided like that for a while, this whole things just making it a bit more official
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ok... dont want to start an arguement... but im a little confoozled...
Display team isnt a new group at all, its just 10 people representing the EA Bockers at the bigger events, as stated before, sponsorship will only pay for certain amount of people to go places. Meets wont be organised on the bases for display team or ea bockers, meets are for everyone.
wat kind of "big events"? is this like sports festivals? does tht mean the rest of us wont be there as EA's? like the whole group wudnt be able to go?
please dont take this as an arguement im just trying to clarify =]
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Unfortunatley not, these so called " Big sports festivals/ Events" will be display team only, Local events would be anybody.
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Display team isnt a new group at all, its just 10 people representing the EA Bockers at the bigger events, as stated before, sponsorship will only pay for certain amount of people to go places. Meets wont be organised on the bases for display team or ea bockers, meets are for everyone.
Not what I meant, some people may feel pushed aside and loose intrest because only some people are sponserd essential is what i meant
tbh iv felt that the EAs have been divided like that for a while, this whole things just making it a bit more official
i agree with hilly it seems that the group has been divided not into display team an ea's but in to people who can flip an do brilliant tricks an people who don't get invited along to anything and it bugs me
i think we should have people of all different skill levels in the team and it would also be good to pick some people who are good at teaching and who know how to help advise people
thanks for reading
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The problem with teaching is it requires insurance, something we dont currently have, as for this display team, its representing an energy drink and it needs the best people possible in the group.
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oh no, i can understand wanting a team to be of a higher skill level, i just dont think the EA community in general isnt what it used to be, and that this is just bringing it out into the open for everyone to see,
but it comes down to that last little bit
it needs the best people possible in the group.
you're telling us that we're not as good as you, not something people like to hear, and you're making it official, which just makes everybody else feel awful
and its not just who's the best bockers - its that you've all been calling the shots for ages, and nobody else is getting a look in at all and haven't been for a long time, the opinions of the larger group dont matter anymore because everything is going on behind the scenes and all we get is irregular updates to which we have no chance of input, because its already decided and done
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Weve tried, but we really cant please everybody and whats decided is decided i guess and im sorry to have to deliver this news.
I mean, obviously what weve decided is set and wont change but what other things would you like to see change?
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Well, as you lot know, i have been busy sorting sh*t out moving to Wales and i haven't had time, it didn't occur to me that the EAs felt like it wasn't like it used to be as the summer was awesome, we had so many amazing meets, and i know you will agree to that.
as i was busy doing stuff Ketan kindly stepped up and took pretty much most of the control, if this was anybody else i wouldn't have minded i have never said this club or group was mine, as it is everyone's and even if you wanted to try and make something worth while i would have been OK with it. But Ketan was the only one to say he wanted to help and this was because he could see i wasn't on the forum much and i did have other stuff going on.
As for sponsorship please don't be pi**ed at Ketan for making decisions i have made just as many in the last year or so that you lot wouldn't have known about but i think telling too many people makes things too messy, lets be honest EAs have been pretty crappy at making decisions in the past and also keeping track of things, (we have a reputation that we are always LATE lol)
like i did say in the first post i didn't want this to be an arguing issue and i wish people would communicate more, if you was unhappy u could have emailed me or MSN'd me or Ketan. i also understand what you mean by saying lets get a "Range" of skills on the Team, i also think that would be an amazing idea, but the sponsor wont understand that, they want the best to really show off. And at the end of the day this team is only for events and TBH i cant see us getting that many events a year.
Everyone is more than welcome to meets and if we can get more than 10 people in i WANT you there, this was a big decider when this was being discussed i don't want to put people out but this will get the EA bockers hopefully a bit more of a reputation. Lozzi as for Teaching people it makes things hard with insurance as it seems, nobody will insure powerbockers anymore. :( other wise we would be there gettin people on stilts etc.
Also the pictures and videos are NOT limited to the display team i have said this time and time again, this means we WANT you at meets so we can get pictures of you up on the LSD site, and the EA site (news on that to come soon) but if you think your being left out because your not on a Team or not being involved tell us. please don't take it to heart we knew people would be "worried". But this just makes me more determined to make people realise it CAN work.
I think we need to really try it and push it before we pull out and go back to the way it was before.
EA bockers are ALL sponsored you can tell people this you can even put this on your CV that your in such a lucky group, We are the FIRST group to be given an opportunity like this. And im sure its the start of an amazing bocking future, heck we might even get gym meets etc, easier then everyone can come along. and we ve then managed to get a gym out of it?
Please tell me if im talking rubbish and i will try and make things clearer the last thing i want is a split group and lots of angry bockers, because then we just end up a creek without a paddle like other groups.
It seems i am rambling on a probably not making much sense
Love you all
Carlos Fandango Green
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I take on board what you have said and appreciate all the hard work you have put into the group, but to help us all become even more motivated by the sponsorship deal and to help us less practised improve, PLEASE let us know when and where the gym meets and outside meets are with as much notice as possible so we can get to them !!
I don't want us to be split into sub groups of the EA's either but sometimes it feel that others are making it that way by not informing us of what's going on and not involving us.
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lozzi
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Unfortunately lifes a b***h sometimes.
You might not want to here this but as the sport grow and gets bigger its going to happen, sub groups are going to form and people will break off but thats just life. For this sport to evole this is what we need, groups like this that can take the sport to the next level in the public eye.
From what I've read in the post it seems they guys who have got the sponsor are doing a fantastic job, good for them, but you have to remember you can't have everything.
Only if you put yourself out there it will happen for you.
-Tom
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Unfortunatley not, these so called " Big sports festivals/ Events" will be display team only, Local events would be anybody.
thanks for clarifying that k8n =]
as for everything else... i think its great that you have done so much with out anybody asking you to. it shows how dedicated you are to the sport and the EA's. i dont want to fight and argue i just want to bock and have a good time with frends so bring on the future of the EA's xD
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I cant stress how much this display team thing only get little bits of exclusiveness, i.e the big events, normal meets, videos, pictures, the website will be for everyone, Display team is litreally 10 people showing others who we are, please take not on "who WE are"
Thanks for understanding people,
K8n
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PLEASE let us know when and where the gym meets and outside meets are with as much notice as possible so we can get to them !!
We haven't had a meet in 3 odd months, not since Ash came to cambridge with us, so if people were thinking we haven't been telling them, there just haven't been any, simple as :)
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But some of you have been meeting up right ???
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between newmarket yeh, maybe half hour up the clocktower , nothing worth posting up...
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I gotta agree with Hilly if im honest and personally have felt like since i came back into the sport in the summer that the whole group had changed all im gonna say is i wish the EA's the best of luck i really do cause i can see the EA's just becoming the ten people in the display team if im honest
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Just my two pence worth, I may be wrong here but I actually think that there's a miscommunication going on...
I think all carl / k8n mean is that although you guys are now a sponsored group it doesn't effect anything greatly but there will be times when the sponsor will ask them to do displays or represent them and only the 10 people in the team will be able to be the representatives due to the way the contract is.
The first post had 5 spots still available I think anyone who wanted to be part of the display team should have pm'ed or emailed Carl/k8n and showed their interest or reservations.
I think the EA's have always shown a relaxed attitude to bocking, but as time goes on the "face" of the EA's has changed - I remember early on it was very much Rob, Carl, Hex and now k8n is the driving force, his making things more organised, setting your goals higher and getting sponsorship as his focus- it may not be the way all of you want to go but there is no harm in having both the best of both worlds - A fun group just the way you have always been and on the other hand when needed a more professional PR front.
I get that it would be nice to be "in the know" of what's going on in the background but I have noticed that many posts have been made for suggestions and there has been lack of contribution, I know I've been in a similar position when I've suggested something / or asked for help or suggestion and although I get given positive feedback, there is no suggestions or constructive criticism which then demotivates you to ask in the future and you just get on with it instead.
A question about the team - do you have to give names of the 10 people in the group or is it just any 10 people. A suggestion could be that if any 10 people can represent you could perhaps open it up and choose people right for the "job" as it comes up. I know in the past insurance companies have not asked for specific names to be put down but that "10" people are covered. If this is the case it would drive people who want to be in the team to be more active and also contrary to popular belief not all the jobs you will get will be putting a display on and being spectacular many of the jobs Pro-Jump 101 get for example are teaching people and children and you don't need to know how to flip to do that so if the policy/contract is open then this allows for more flexibility.
There's loads of you in the group, there is no one stopping you organising the meets, posting dates, not every meet needs to be big sometimes even only having a few of you may make it epic - if you want a meet don't wait for someone else to post it or suggest it just do it! btw I think this is the first time I have seen the EA's publically have a disagreement, you have your own part private part of the forum so you should keep these things specifically for the EA's there and show a more united front to the rest of the world :P
The EA's are one of my favourite groups, as you formed around the same time as I started working for UK Good Deals so I've seen you grow from just a few people to who you are today. I'd hate to see you fall out so work it out guys, talk to each other and move forward together :thumbs:
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i think its just a matter of best bockers only for displays which means that flips will be needed etc and most EA's cant flip who are the spare 5 spaces going to be filled by which is whats puzzled me since the first post when ther was only 5 names ?
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i think what naz was saying about the display team makes sence... like rotate a few if not all of the display team for different events so that everybody gets a chance and no body feels left out.
i just want to clarify the fact that at no point did i not like this sponsership or anything. i think it is all a great thing which can provide the EA's with an oppertunity to grow. just want to make sure i haven't been mis understood for saying that it isn't what it is.
x CHAZZLE x
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Just to clarify what I said would only work dependant on how the insurance is - it's now hard to get powerbcking insurance for groups so there may be a restriction.
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i would also like to clarify that i think the sponsorship is brill and that its going to take the EA's to the next level but the only relay queary is at what cost to the feelings of the group
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lozzi
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Hi guys. What I am about to say might be stupid, or useful. I'm not sure yet.
What is going on with the EAs right now is great. Honestly, I have respect for all those involved. I spent some time doing it and truthfully it's hard work. The EAs are a fab and enthusiastic group. More so in the real world than on these forums which can cause problems with the organisation. For things to happen everybody needs to to a little bit when asked, respond when asked ect. That part of it really took it out of me. I felt I was trying my best and nobody else was willing to do the things I needed for me to do what I wanted.
That aside, and this is some advice for those involved in organisation. There will be a certain percentage of people who just want to bock, who don't want to organise, who just want to turn up to the meets and have fun. Then there will be those who want to push the group and really make it something fab. This is often a thankless job and people take the hard work for granted and will be happy to just turn up to the things that have been organised. But then there will be another, smaller amount of people that may not necessarily be on the committee but will be interested in what is happening and will want to help. All groups (not restricted to bocking) have these people and it's hard to please everybody. The important thing is to keep those that do care in the know. And also, people don't have to be part of a committee to help so if people are willing why not give people things to do. This will benefit everybody. I think it is important to do this now you have a structure and members. I know it's early days but it's something to aim for.
AGMs and EGMs are actually great. It might not be everybody's cup of tea but it gives every person in the group to talk to the directors/organisers and voice any concerns and talk about it face to face. It really helps to clear the air if people have concerns and helps members feel confident in the organisation of the group. There is often a lot of interpretation over the interwebs. Even a conference call or group IM would be an improvement. If people are not in the know it can upset them.
As for the display team, I think it's great. I would be interested to know what the benefits are to the whole group? What is the sponsorship? What do you get in return? If it could be a number of people instead of listed names I think it would be great for the group. That way it makes the display team and group seem like the same thing. No separation and it makes it just makes it seem like the team belongs to the group a little more. Obviously, if this can't be done it can't be done but I think it would have it's benefits.
My last point is about the structure. I know why it has been done. I was involved in early talks about it. At the time when it came to organising a committee for insurance purposes ect it was decided it would be best if for the first year the committee would just form, with no vote ect. Which imo was for the best. But it can't stay that way (not elected). The group does need consulting about it's future. The display team probably should have been one of those things. Pitched in the right way and talked about in advanced with the group I'm sure you would have had everybody's support.
I mean, obviously what weve decided is set and wont change but what other things would you like to see change?
I understand this has happened. It is good. But maybe just something for next time.
This is a members group. People should really be elected. If people want to help and be on the committee they need the chance. The members also need the opportunity to select who they want to be on it.The committee serve the group, not the other way around. It's hard and it sucks but its the way it kind of has to go. You might find that nobody wants to be involved or people are happy the way it is but it has to be about giving members a voice and chance to decide.
Sorry for the long post. I hope it doesn't spark any trouble. I know what I have said may be a little controversial. I'm not trying to upset the current committee or anything. That's the last thing I want. I know what it's like and its hard work. As I said, I have respect for you. These are just the sorts of things any members group should aim for. I'm in an unusual position it the airfield of being a normal member and knowing the problems the members are having but also knowing everything that goes on behind the scenes with close friends and family being on committee. The 2 groups are actually very much alike. It's just the airfield a little further ahead with this stuff.
Keep up the good work guys :)
:spudT:
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Thanks Spud in response i do have a few things to say,
1. the commitee is non existant as we are not going to become an official group unless somebody else wants to do that. we dont have one as we dont have "members" nobody pays to be in the EAs and we are just a group of friends, If somebody is genuinly interested in wanting to help or even do something for the EAs then i have always been more than welcome to let people try it (just like you Spud with the website etc). But i like the idea of having meetings but again this does cause promblems like getting everyone together as we are so far apart. but i do hope people can come online and talk to me about any queries they have and hopefully something can get done.
2. the display team will now remain open, so that people will be rotated to help with events as im sure there will be events that people wont be able to make so we will need others. i hope thats what you want to hear,if this makes the group happier i am willing to give it a go. As for what the Ea bockers get from LSD, its nothing, we get reputation and we get to show bocking off, they are not willing to pay anything as this is a basic sponsorship. we MIGHT be able to get travel expenses paid for, for those attending the events. Also might be able to get some LSD drinks but no promises at the moment.
If there is anything i missed please let me know
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You forgot to mention that you love men.
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Does anybody have ANYTHING else to say about this?
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Shudda left it Carlos. :(
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ok wow this might not be my place to say anything but the hell with it i have read alot of this topic and there are a lot of good points,
every group has its up and down every one with have meets where others dont know ( like if next door has stilts are you going to tell the whole group you are going bocking outside your houses after school ) there will be the people who can flip and the people that cant ( its not their falut that they has put the time in or they live close to the gym and can get there for the meets) it doesnt mean you are any less part of the group this applys to all groups and not just to the EA's i know it has been brought up in this topic, people need to read LESS in to this and just be happy for the group on a whole and what they are doing for the sport and the name of your group in which you are a part of.
i know im not a EA but if i was and was not on the team i would be happy for the people who are and who are doing the work like becky has been doing for the epb who mad us what we are today. i understand people views that they would like to be in the team but the team is they to show off what people can do at the top of the sport if all people could do on stilts is walk not jump and do the tricks i know that i probs would have tried a set.its like all things if you see somthing amazing you want to do it and it is this which makes people try new things its a bit like fishing you need bait to get the fish; then is need the whole group as a whole to make the new bocker feel welcome and want to stay in the sport
i hope this has helped a little if not im sorry i just dont want people to fell left out as your not your just not the bait but you are the keep net :Cbiggrin:
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Thanks for the constructive input and points lynch, all taken in m8 :)
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yer this is great new sponcers should be great
looking forward to a t-shirt :Cbiggrin:
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As for what the Ea bockers get from LSD, its nothing, we get reputation and we get to show bocking off, they are not willing to pay anything as this is a basic sponsorship. we MIGHT be able to get travel expenses paid for, for those attending the events. Also might be able to get some LSD drinks but no promises at the moment.
I wouldn't call that "Sponsorship", I'd call that "Being used".
It's not really sponsorship unless they give you something for doing it. At the moment it looks (to me) like they're using you to promote their drink and you get nothing in return.
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Ash at the moment we get some drinks from them and t shirts, But we have to prove we are worth sponsoring, you will find no company will chuck money at a group or person they don't know so we are on a year contract after that year if we prove to them we are worth having we will get offered more and another contract.
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Carl, have you heard anything more about insurance?
Hannah x
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Thanks Spud in response i do have a few things to say,
1. the commitee is non existant as we are not going to become an official group unless somebody else wants to do that. we dont have one as we dont have "members" nobody pays to be in the EAs and we are just a group of friends, If somebody is genuinly interested in wanting to help or even do something for the EAs then i have always been more than welcome to let people try it (just like you Spud with the website etc). But i like the idea of having meetings but again this does cause promblems like getting everyone together as we are so far apart. but i do hope people can come online and talk to me about any queries they have and hopefully something can get done.
2. the display team will now remain open, so that people will be rotated to help with events as im sure there will be events that people wont be able to make so we will need others. i hope thats what you want to hear,if this makes the group happier i am willing to give it a go. As for what the Ea bockers get from LSD, its nothing, we get reputation and we get to show bocking off, they are not willing to pay anything as this is a basic sponsorship. we MIGHT be able to get travel expenses paid for, for those attending the events. Also might be able to get some LSD drinks but no promises at the moment.
If there is anything i missed please let me know
sorry I was unable to reply earlier. I understand about the comittee. You might not have it yet but to have a display team you will need insurance and to have insurance you will need a comittee (chairperson ect).
I thought this sponsorship was really godo, but now I am not so sure. I think what sprog said was fair. The benefits are small right now and yes, it might get better after the 1 year contract but they might not. I think it's great but you are selling yourselves short. heres why I don't like it:
1)the display team need insurance
2)the display team will have to pay for insurance (or all members, however it works)
3)you wont be paid for the events you do for LSD. Expenses if you are lucky.
So really guys you are plowing a load of your own/the EAs money into promotion of a business, not really yourselves. All for a Tshirt and some drink.
no display teams pay for insurance unless it is an investment (they will earn money from doing it) Seems kinda crazy to me. I think the sponsorship can work but it has to be a fair deal. You are worth sponsoring and you are worth the money. You juts gotta belive it yourselves or nobody will.
You are being used. I'm sorry to say it. I think the group would do better to just go to some events and promote like that. That way even if you have to pay for insurance it's you that reap the rewards.
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Everything is sorted nobody has to pay anything and since there was never any money that EAs had we aren't plowing money into it. insurance is also sorted we will be covered.
i don't think we are selling ourselves out at all, i think that anyone who will go for sponsorship will get the same as us and have to EARN there way up to get paid and yes expenses are being paid.
i have never wanted to earn money from this sport its something i love doing and i wanna get our group out there and noticed and this seems like a good way to go out and promote bocking at events. we are not being used as we still get to use EA bockers name.
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I actually think that you have the right attitude Carl, companies are struggling at the moment and they are very reluctant to give anything away. Often association with a brand is good and helps to build your brand up too and gives you more leverage in the future
I recently had a mx team at the top level asking for just 10% of their rate card for GhostBikes to be their lead sponsor. This is the same spot that a very well known clothing brand paid over £200k to secure last year - just gives you an idea of how even big companies have completely cut down their sponsorship budget this year.
I say take what you can, appreciate it and build on it as you are definitely on the right path.
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Its not about money to us, were just doing what we love and if "being used" is the term people are using to refer to a couple of drinks and a shirt so be it , in that case i dont mind being used, this is all a good experience and hopefully will do powerbocking as a whole a good thing.
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Everything is sorted nobody has to pay anything and since there was never any money that EAs had we aren't plowing money into it. insurance is also sorted we will be covered.
i don't think we are selling ourselves out at all, i think that anyone who will go for sponsorship will get the same as us and have to EARN there way up to get paid and yes expenses are being paid.
i have never wanted to earn money from this sport its something i love doing and i wanna get our group out there and noticed and this seems like a good way to go out and promote bocking at events. we are not being used as we still get to use EA bockers name.
Awesome. As long it is of no cost to people I think it's great. The fact travel expenses are covered (was a maybe earlier) is wicked. It's just the way it looked without knowing the finer details. You are a great bunch and I really really wouldn't want you to put all this effort in if you were being used (bit like with the previous sponsors, having to buy products ect) But if what you say is right then you are on to a winner and if you can use your name ect, has no cost to the group then there isn't a thing to lose and everything to gain.
Congrats :)
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Not sure if anyones bothered, but heres the latest update.
Iv now talked to them about UK sales and their discussing it.
If this drink ever comes to the UK were gonna be a seriously busy group.
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sounds great,
you have sponsorship by a company thats product "may" not even ever be on sale in the UK
keep up the great work
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But for all you know your Energy Drink sponsor might never be on sale in the UK...