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YOUR JUMPING STILTS => Modifications => Topic started by: zendalfire on December 15, 2007, 01:00:37 AM
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I am looking into developing a kit for purchase, but I want to see if there is any interest first.
This would mostly be for beginning bockers or non-DIY types..
Custom Mod Pack:
Pair of Leg braces (similar to Pin straps) - Custom colors, styles
PVC Tape - 3 or more (large) rolls, Custom colors
1-2 pair Tyre socks- Choose from several treads, colors, and styles (tie-up, velcro, etc)
Footplate brace coverings - Customs colors
Screw covers - Customs colors, styles
What do you think?
I will research and see what colors are available for each items, and get some color scheme mock-ups. There are also a few other accessories I could include.
Price target around or below $50 USD
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It seems like a really good idea but over all it would depend on the quality of the final products. I could definately see the idea working really well and a target price of $50 equiv to about £25 seems totally reasonble but have you considered p&p costs etc?
Have you done any of the mods yet? and how well did they work?
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P&P should not be much of a problem. The kit should be somewhat compact, depending on the accessories included.. And I can make my own packaging for nearly free.
I've created a unique Tyre sock design with great success, though it has not been stress tested (hope to put it to the test this weekend ;)
Working on the next sock.. All designs have the goal of not looking like 'a half tyre strapped on the hoof'.
Currently working out the design of the Leg braces as well, but materials are comparable to Pin straps.
And the other items are mostly ready to go, with perhaps a bit of trimming.
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:o do i see that location right another person in Lincoln :D
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:o do i see that location right another person in Lincoln :D
With our luck that's Lincoln in the US ( used $ sign { typo and meant £ ? } ) !
There's no extra pin in the map ???
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Sorry to disappoint, it is Lincoln in the US..
Update:
Leg brace designs coming along. Should have a prototype done tomorrow.
Will post photos soon..
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it lincoln, nebraska
or a lincoln in another state
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Well not Lincoln England - Ur still a tigger Rick :(
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yep people in lincoln have no sense of excitement.
i know theres a lincoln in nebraska and lincoln in about 7 other states but cant remember them, so thought i'd ask ;D
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I never put Boston UK !
My Boston is the first all others are copies if people want to know which ones which, the BOSTON the UK one !?
I'm not moaning just fedup of poeple thinking i'm in the US, if you said London where do you think first .... England not Canade
Boston
http://www.bostonuk.com/index.php?f=Boston (http://www.bostonuk.com/index.php?f=Boston)
London
http://www.london.ca/ (http://www.london.ca/)
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omg theres a london in canada :o TELL THEM THTS OURS! :angel:
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and about the mod kit maybe zend can you send a pic of the kit when your done so we can see what stuf it has ??? :laugh:
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Are we any further on with this kit?
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Yea hows it goin. I wouldnt mind a kit.
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Lets see the kit, or I will have to look at making a kit, lol
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Lets see the kit, or I will have to look at making a kit, lol
And sell them to everybody else :nana:
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Currently, I have too many ventures to start producing many of these kits, but...
If there is enough demand, perhaps I could put a few together.
$50 (USD) kit includes:
Pair of leg braces (pinstraps)
2 Pair tyre socks (4)
4 rolls of PVC tape (or pair of spring covers)
And a few bolt caps, and footplate brace covers...
All custom colors/styles.
*Note: These items are made specifically to fit PoweriZer brand stilts.
I am currently 'stress-testing' the leg braces and tyre socks.
I'll get some photos up in the next few days.
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Pair of leg braces (pinstraps)
it's misleading to call ur straps pinstraps or pinhead straps as they are not his straps, and he won´t b very happy!
*Note: These items are made specifically to fit PoweriZer brand stilts.
In which case they wil fit pro-jumps, flying jumpers, fly jumpers, speedjumpers as well
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he won´t b very happy!
is he ever? :P couldn't resist
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Not wanting to be a killjoy but I have to say that if $50 at todays rate is about £25
Either the materials are being given away free in the States and you are willing to work well below minimum wage or I am missing something
Pins straps are made from good quality materials and I think are good value at the price he sells them
Althought I can't speak for Pin I know that the threads I use for anything structural is very strong (will literaly remove your finger before it breaks in a tug of war) and the webbing I use can tow a car (I have done it once in an emergency) these materials don't come cheap (you can buy cheaper but I won't) because someone could hurt themselves badly if they fail
The tyres for tyre socks can work out cheap if you buy bulk but buy too cheap and they will last one bocking session (I made one out of a £5 chinese tyre and it was through in less than an hour
When you tape springs it is for protection thin tape looks nice but the thick stuff protects better and as with all quality is dearer
Please don't take this the wrong way zendalfire I hope you can supply all you say at this price and keep the post costs down but remember if the parts don't last you won't get repeat orders and you only get one shot in this community as it is so small every one knows straight away if something is good or bad and posts accordingly
And yes that was naughty calling them (pinstraps) :biggrin: and I wouldn't like to be on your end if he spots it :haha:
Having said all that I wish you the best of luck as we need things like this to make the sport more accesable but remember people will pay a little more if the quality is there
Jason :Hoofies2:
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I'm with you on that jason. The price looks great but i wouldnt want rubbish stuff. would rather pay more and have something that does the job properly and lasts.
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I only included (pinstraps) as I thought that was a somewhat established name, like tyre sock; so people would know exactly what I was describing, quickly. Fine, I'll call them Zenstraps ;D
Apparently materials are cheaper in the states.. Here is what I am using:
PVC tape is 'professional grade' - can't find any better :-\
Webbing is thickest I can find at 1 inch width, you will snap the buckle before the webbing
Buckles are robust and curved to fit your leg
Tyre socks are made from general bmx/mountain tires (my current pair is at 12 hrs and counting..)
All other accessories are general materials cut to fit
Total cost is slightly less than $50, without buying bulk.
Photos soon..
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Sound good zendalfire
and I like the sound of Zenstraps (but do you have to chant "Ooooooommm" while your wearing them :biggrin:)
Jason :Hoofies2:
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Hey Zendalfire,
It may be a good idea to send a sample kid to one of the bockers to test it out for you in the UK, I think if the tester gives you the :thumbs: then you will get orders flooding in!
Even though PinHead & Jason were well known in the community before they started selling they let someone test their products first :)
Have a think about it ;)
all the best.
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Just what I was thinking! I was debating how to decide who gets the first kit..
For my set, I have 2-color straps; they match my current black/red scheme.
Also, I don't have support pads on the straps, but can easily be added. (They will be in the kit)
Here are some photos:
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looks really good, I think it would be hard 2 choose some1, u could run mini competition and pick a winner perhaps?
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Looks really good. Surprisingly good actually. Good job. Well done :thumbs:
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Aren't the straps just a blatent copy's of pinheads?
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Aren't the straps just a blatent copy's of pinheads?
Yes.... but he does own a patent on them
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True, they resemble Pinhead's design, which works very well.
But... Technically, they are based on the original bindings that are included with the stilts; plus quick-release buckles and a center strap to keep it in place.
I have decided not to market this kit. Instead, I will teach everyone how to make their own. ;D
I am going to create a website of tutorials. A one-stop do-it-yourself shop ;D
Plus, the items on the site will be available for purchase if you prefer not to make them yourself.
I'll have more details very soon.
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True, they resemble Pinhead's design, which works very well.
But... Technically, they are based on the original bindings that are included with the stilts; plus quick-release buckles and a center strap to keep it in place.
I have decided not to market this kit. Instead, I will teach everyone how to make their own. ;D
I am going to create a website of tutorials. A one-stop do-it-yourself shop ;D
Plus, the items on the site will be available for purchase if you prefer not to make them yourself.
I'll have more details very soon.
That's what Pinheads are, so EXACTLY the same.... give proper credit where credit is due.
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As I said, I'm not going to market these. Only show how to make them, and provide materials if needed.
The designs are quite different, only the basic ideas are the same.
I offer an easier, cheaper, faster, comparable product.
I will not make any money on this; I'm only trying to help the sport.
I don't mean to take business away from Pinhead, but it was inevitable, really.
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I was lookin forward to buyin a kit but I think showin everybody else gow too is the best idea.
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I think it is fair to have the option to make your own as some people have more money than time for which they can buy pinhead's straps and others more time than money.
Copies or not I think everybody should be able to have have some.
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I don't see what the big deal is, his developed the idea the same way PinHead did, I know a few people who designed similar straps with just one clip but they haven't come on the forum, infact max's poweriser page http://sifter.org/~max/powerisers.html uses a similar design but uses a different clip. I don't see Zeldalfire's design as a rip of Pinheads design at all, his created a strap, ok it looks similar but PinHead always said that he has a special way of making them and his never given a tutorial to people to make their own, this guys come along, his not only going to sell them but his making a tutorial available for people to make their own so maybe you need to give credit where credits due.
I really love PinHeads mod's and all the creativity he brings to the forum, however I don't know why people make such a big deal when people try to make similar straps? I remember when Ricc made his Quick Sox it was a complete rip of Jason's original hoofy design and I saw no one make a song and dance about it. Jason complimented Ricc on his design.
Some of you really need to grow up :banghead:
Zeldalfire, look forward to your tutorial and I hope you are not put off making new designs in the future, all the best.
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I don't see what the big deal is, his developed the idea the same way PinHead did, I know a few people who designed similar straps with just one clip but they haven't come on the forum, infact max's poweriser page http://sifter.org/~max/powerisers.html uses a similar design but uses a different clip. I don't see Zeldalfire's design as a rip of Pinheads design at all, his created a strap, ok it looks similar but PinHead always said that he has a special way of making them and his never given a tutorial to people to make their own, this guys come along, his not only going to sell them but his making a tutorial available for people to make their own so maybe you need to give credit where credits due.
I really love PinHeads mod's and all the creativity he brings to the forum, however I don't know why people make such a big deal when people try to make similar straps? I remember when Ricc made his Quick Sox it was a complete rip of Jason's original hoofy design and I saw no one make a song and dance about it. Jason complimented Ricc on his design.
Some of you really need to grow up :banghead:
Zeldalfire, look forward to your tutorial and I hope you are not put off making new designs in the future, all the best.
I will continue to say exactly what I want, regardless of wether you like it or not. I don't need to grow up I have already done that. I also dont need to be chastised just because you disagree with my point of view. You dont think it's the same as Pinheads...fair enough but what I see is something else. Maybe when Ricc posted his version of what Jason did he gave credit to the original inventor....or not. I cant remember, but that has passed. Just because it wasn't mentioned in that thread doesn't mean it cant be mentioned in this one.
I also hope that Zendalfire continues to design new stuff, having negative comments shouldn't stop anyone. When Jason invented his hoofies, studdies etc, I told him I thought the name was naff. He didn't get p**sy about, he just accepted the difference in opinion.
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I have launched BockModZ.com!
http://www.bockmodz.com (http://www.bockmodz.com)
Currently, there is one tutorial, but more will be added often.
-As for the strap design, it was partially inspired by Pinhead's design, and there is a mention on the tutorial. As you can see, there isn't much that could be taken directly from Pinhead's design, as my mod is made from pre-made items ;)
I've created a new topic for the announcement.
http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1533.0 (http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1533.0)
Please use that thread for feedback on the site. Thanks,
-Zen
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I actually really enjoyed the posts about my Naff names for all my mods ET they gave all of us a good laugh (and I freely admit the names are naff/cute) thats the attraction for me :haha:
And to set the record straight Ricc contacted me about his Quick Sox and we chatted about designs for a while lots of good ideas both ways
He said in one post that he was only making them for close friends (if they are as labour intensive as mine I don't blame him they are a pain in the Hoof :biggrin:) so it wasn't really the same as this
A mixture of Pins tie up tire sox and about three other peoples designs at Capital Bocking gave me the idea for the Hoofies so although I've said it before thanks all of you thats what this game is all about sharing ideas
I see zendalfires straps as a cheeper alternative to Pins straps but I've seen Pins Straps and the quality of the work and materials so if you want and can afford the best Pins are the ultimate and if you want to economize go with zendalfire (after all competition drives industry to greater effort)
As for me I love Cuffies as with a wonky leg I can adjust them to get myself straight so I won't be needing straps sadly :biggrin:
Jason :Hoofies2:
Ps ET if your bored spell check this for me I need a bit of picking on :haha:
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Well put jason. Its hard to say exactly what you want perfectly sometimes and you did a great job :thumbs:
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Thankyou Spud
It's unusual for me I have normally got both of my feet in my mouth and talk gibberish :haha:
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Thankyou Spud
:nana:
It's unusual for me I have normally got both of my feet in my mouth and talk gibberish :haha:
:haha:
I will keep an eye out for that you big kid :lol: I have to admit.. I am much the same sometimes. :nana:
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I have launched BockModZ.com!
http://www.bockmodz.com (http://www.bockmodz.com)
BLOOOOOMING great idea Zen!
I fully support that site..
Make sure you fill it up with all the diffferent mods we all come to Love .. and get annoyed about ;)
will be checking it for progress so get to work!! :)
K.
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kiola - Just a little innovation is all ;D
Once I get more tutorials online, and an ordering system, you will be able to make your own custom kit with the supplies offered on the site.
If you make your own straps, you are responsible for finding the best quality materials to use.
The materials ordered from BockModZ are the best I can find and the model of dog collar I use is the best suited for this particular use. After 12 hrs of use, I've not had any problem with the straps. They stay adjusted and fit comfortably.
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Hey people :D ,
Well i have made up my own little kit :rolleyes: 8) here it is
(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1184/dsc00359by1.jpg)
it will be on sale for £20 xD JOKES!!!
but u have got to admit it is a good package :nana:
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Some people are gonna love your kit lol :biggrin:
:banana:
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Got to love the kit, its got vodka, hehe :banana:
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lol
How can I compete with that :laugh:
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Your tyre socks look way neater than any others I've seen.
What's the difference? Methodologically speaking that is.
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they are based on pin heads tie up ones, check out the modificatin section.Also see the tyre sock thread on the faq section too for all the different types.
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Actually, the tire socks in the photo (earlier in this thread) are a snap on type I made.
I have not made a tutorial for them yet, as I find them to be inefficient. When the tire wears through, you have to throw everything away :(
On the plus side, you can put them on or off in 2 seconds :o
I have a similar type (with reusable hardware) in development.
As you may notice, the tire sock tutorial is currently offline for re-design, as I had a pair break while running. The new version beats everything I've seen..
The tutorial will be online soon ;)