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Title: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 06, 2008, 08:57:20 PM
Earlier in the month I offerd to try to get an indoor venue somewhere in Lincolnshire that Bockers could train in

I will be talking to a number of Lincolnshires Sports Development Officers over the next 4 weeks as well as Schools Sports Development Managers.

I know that North Kesteven Council are very pro extreme sports and have a co-ordinator developing sports in Sleaford and North Hykeham. Also looking to see if I can get access to a City School Gym

I need some information on the following

1)What sort of height does the roof need to be
2)What equipment would you like to be on site (mats ect)
3)How long would you want to be on site training
4)Do you want this to be a regular event, if so how often
5)How many people can you safely get in a normal sized sports hall
6)How many would be interested in attending
7) When would you want to hold the first session

Only other question is does anyone have a First aid certificate or done any Child Protection Courses. To get access to local authority sites the last two are not essential but very desirable

Thanks


Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 06, 2008, 10:12:55 PM
I have some level 3 first aid course thing... I have done a few others too. My mum is a child protection officer for our flying club and has been on the courses but I doubt she would be willing to go down there. She is also has todo lots of first aid because of her job so there would be no harm in asking. Would just have to pitch it right...
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: chocl8 on January 06, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
1)What sort of height does the roof need to be - 4 metres~ish?
2)What equipment would you like to be on site (mats ect) - Yep Mats, ie high jump crash mats?
3)How long would you want to be on site training - 2 hours i'd say?
4)Do you want this to be a regular event, if so how often - depending on turn out once/twice a month
5)How many people can you safely get in a normal sized sports hall - normal size is? I'd say 20~ish
6)How many would be interested in attending - everyone as long as they can get there
7) When would you want to hold the first session asap

Anyone else got anything to add?  :)
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 06, 2008, 10:49:35 PM
2)What equipment would you like to be on site (mats ect)

I wouldn't just be thinking flip training, if its a posibility think of other areas you could improve skills on such height training? Stuff like a vaulting horse (think thats what they called!)
(http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/84/35/22283584.jpg)
could be a massive help to improve your jumping /vaulting techniques.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: chocl8 on January 06, 2008, 11:42:44 PM
 :approve: Now why didn't i think of that... :banghead:   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Jason on January 06, 2008, 11:50:05 PM
You might want to go a bit higher than 4mts if you watch Kiola and a few others they are well over 2 mts on their bocks and they can get 2mts + height so 5 might be the minimum or you could end up  :banghead:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: chocl8 on January 06, 2008, 11:52:31 PM
ok ok, 5 metres min then  :)
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: carlgreen on January 06, 2008, 11:54:59 PM
preferably over 5 meters crash mats and high jump mats wud be good for those who want to flip

like naz sed horses and most other gym equipent wud be good things like foam blocks to jump over would be fun

maybe a trampoline for those wanting to practise without bocks on it could be a way of learning new tricks without the thort of falling on the floor

Carl  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on January 07, 2008, 05:22:25 AM
1)What sort of height does the roof need to be - Roof will want to be well over 5mt high more towards 7 - 8 m high most gyms will have a high roof tho because of basketball n other sports played in them

2)What equipment would you like to be on site (mats ect) - equipment would be large crash mats, and things to jump on and over for height and confidence training and improving not all members want to flip, also something to vault over but the major thing would have to be the crash mats were all used to falling over but sports hall floors tend to burn skin if u slide on them so crash mats would be a good idea

3)How long would you want to be on site training - 2 hours max indoors

4)Do you want this to be a regular event, if so how often - wouldnt be able to say how regular until we had a meet there

5)How many people can you safely get in a normal sized sports hall people into a sports hall on bocks i could easyily say 20 of us lets b honest wer not all going to be flipping and jumping onto the same things we all watch each otha n give advice make fun when people fall over etc so wouldnt b manic

6)How many would be interested in attending - i think the whole group would like to attend wont know how many will go unless a date is given but i know the whole group would want to and i could comfortably say at least 10 would go mayb 15

7) When would you want to hold the first session - As soon as possible really but bearing in mind how much time people need to give to get the date off work needs to be a realistic date
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 07, 2008, 09:22:09 AM
Thanks for this info will start to investigate but please keep any ideas coming

I am first aid qualified, with Child protection and CRB checked so not an imeadiate issue. However having more than one will mean that we would be ok if I could not make a session.

 
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on January 07, 2008, 04:48:38 PM
im crb checked cuz my mum is a child minder n has the kids here
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: chocl8 on January 07, 2008, 09:50:18 PM
Can't wait for 1st gym meet  ;D
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: carlgreen on January 07, 2008, 11:48:55 PM
i second tht but i think lincs could be a bit far 4 me but im willing 4 at least 1 meet there before i find my own gym closer
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 08, 2008, 12:00:38 AM
i have same prob. closer wud be good
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 08, 2008, 12:14:26 AM
You guys should do a map (http://www.frappr.com) for the EA's (like the pro-jump one) that pinpoints where each of you are, you could just stick it in the EA Bockers board and whenever a new EA Bocker joins they can just add their pin to both maps.

That way when it comes to doing meets, such a a gym meet you would find it easier to organise a place thats central to all of you.

Then Charlie B could consider the posible locations closest to what's central to all the EA's, this way more of you are likely to make it regularly!
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: carlgreen on January 08, 2008, 12:17:13 AM
as soon as i get time i will make one but if any one gets time before me feel free to do it
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 08, 2008, 12:27:13 AM
I tried to to it the other day but none of them worked either down to sites or the actuall map there was always a prob
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 08, 2008, 12:45:17 AM
This is the one we use http://www.frappr.com/ it's not perfect but it does the job!
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 08, 2008, 12:52:40 AM
I tried but the website was not working at the time. Have to try again soon
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 08, 2008, 02:36:46 AM
My contacts and info are lincolnshire based, others do similar jobs in other counties

in Norfolk County Sports Partnership is at www.activenorfolk.org

This will get you access to the Sports development officers in that area. If you live near a school ask who the Partnership development manager is or who is the local School Sports co-ordinator. They may be able to help with access to local school sports halls.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Adam_Circus on January 08, 2008, 01:56:51 PM
Hey guys!!!!

Well i am crb and also have a first repsonse for first aid if they help!!! :D

the only problem as i am off in 3 moths but will do that in another topic.

but i am up for any moeets before then!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 11, 2008, 08:57:20 PM
Quick update

I am discussing requirements with two centres

Boston
Pricess Royal Sports Arena Boston Lincs

Lincoln
Either Birchwood leisure centre or Yarborough Leisure Centre

Awaiting info on costs and safety requirements

Also can source a gymnastics coach to work with those wanting to do flips ect starting with a trampet & mats. Not sure how this is transitioned into using PJ`s maybe the more experienced can tell me.

If we can get Lincoln other bockers from Notts, Derbys & Leics may be able to attend.

May also be able to look at an event nearer Spalding if needed but we do need 15 + turning up regularly



Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: rickbicker26 on January 11, 2008, 10:04:55 PM
http://www.yarboroughleisure.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=c_pages.showPage&pageID=1&CFID=3709326&CFTOKEN=e15a936140d8d6a9-6AAAA300-9079-0AC4-E2F419D74DFA718E (http://www.yarboroughleisure.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=c_pages.showPage&pageID=1&CFID=3709326&CFTOKEN=e15a936140d8d6a9-6AAAA300-9079-0AC4-E2F419D74DFA718E)

can find some prices here to
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: hybrid_hex on January 11, 2008, 10:25:53 PM
I will also be looking into the UEA just on the edge of Norwich, they have a huge sports centre there sectioned off, so there can be lots of things going at once, When I next go in for Volleyball im going to take my bocks and ask. (mite try some volleyball on them as well!)
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 12, 2008, 02:23:21 PM
Thanks for this. Talking to the City Council & the service provider to try and get a reduced rate. Will be useful to see if they can reduce against standard rates

If you are loking to use the Centre in Norwich also talk to City Sports Development Officers who may be able to give support which is always useful when talking to centre operators as they are part of the council that usually either pays them or give them the contract to operate.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: chocl8 on January 12, 2008, 08:51:04 PM
All this sounds awsome! Lincoln, Norwich, Spalding, Boston are fairly spread out, so i guess people could just get to ones near them? If we need 15 people reguarly?  :)
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 14, 2008, 09:10:17 AM
Can you tell me how formal/informal the set up of the group is.

May need to formalise something for payment of facilities and possibly insurance
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on January 14, 2008, 01:39:41 PM
The group runs unbelivably informal that you wouldnt belive it, me and carl have looked into group insurance for us but have been told will work out cheaper if we get it individually.

payment for things wouldnt be a problem tho would just need one person who will be willing to have the payment transfer from a direct debit account to pay the facilty and the rest of the bockers all transfer money into his account or give it to them at the meet up easyiest way i can think off
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 14, 2008, 09:46:21 PM
Ok need to understand insurance requirements from facilities.

Lincoln City Council have confirmed that Birchwood leisure Center has free time on Saturday afternoons from 14:00 to 16:00. Meeting with centre Manager and City Sports Develoment Officer to agree what equipment is there or can be provided shortly.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: rickbicker26 on January 14, 2008, 09:49:29 PM
from where i live i can see Birchwood leisure centre, can easily walk there on my projumps so if u need someone else to go to i'll be happy to
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 14, 2008, 09:54:22 PM
Thanks will keep you in mind. I have history with the guys in developing sports in Lincoln. I am calling in a few favours so i need to attend the initial meeting.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 16, 2008, 08:29:46 AM
North Hykeham Leisure centre near Lincoln has offered us use of thier sports hall and full inventory of gymnastics equipment for Saturday afternoons from 14:00 to 16:00

At present I believe there will be no need for additional insurance.

There is also a Parcour group that use the facilities from 16:00 to 18:00 so any equipment we use can be left out meaning we get more time to play. Might also be good for the group to create links with them as they have a qualified gymnastics coach who may help

The cost for hall hire will be £20 per hour if we commit to long term use I could negotiate a further reduction. Means cost will be approx £4:00 per person max working on a minimum of 10 people per session over 3 sessions

Going to do a health and safety check and risk analysis with the Centre Manager next week.

Suggested a monthly meeting, probably need to book 3 months

Need to get an idea as to how many want to attend

Please can you advise by sending a PM using my e mail address
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Hoddsy on January 16, 2008, 05:12:26 PM
i'd love to come but i think its a bit far for me, its gonna be atleast a 3 hour car drive each way sadly.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: rickbicker26 on January 16, 2008, 07:36:48 PM
the gillyberts might be able to make it there not to far away. :thumbs:

if u tell me which weekend it is and how many turn up i'll turn up
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: chocl8 on January 16, 2008, 11:46:11 PM
Yeh i think we need to all check our hectic schedules ( :P) but seriously, i just need to know what saturdays and i can be there, if its monthly after that, then i should be able to make sure i'm free then. Sounds great btw, thanks to Charlie B for organising this!  :)
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on January 18, 2008, 03:56:30 AM
Yea big thanks to charlie b on this one i dont know how you did you but well done mate, if you pick a date just any date make it about 3 weeks off and try and make it a sunday would be great works kinda moanin at me about keep taking off Saturdays lol, if i dont make the first one im sure i could book it off regular for monthly,

we did orginally say we would meet up on the first sat of every month so i dont know wether you could work it into that or do it every 3rd sat or last or somethink i dunno just throwin ideas in the air lol
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Adam_Circus on January 18, 2008, 01:59:43 PM
Nice mate!!!

See if you can get a provis date and then see h0ow many can make it and then we can chat and bock at the samre time?????
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 19, 2008, 09:23:49 AM
Quick update

Kit Available on site

the following equipment available every session for you:

2 x Vault Horses

1 x Pommel Horse
1 x Parallel Bars
6 x 5ft Square “Red Cubes” (will give you a better description)
1 x Balance Beam
2 x Benches
3 x Floor Beams
35 x Reebok Steps (normally used for step classes but could come in useful)
40 x Gym mats
4 x Crash Mats

I can only make saturdays and at present, it looks like I am the only one with the right qualifications to get the Gym so cannot do Sundays.

Can look at 1st Saturday in the month starting March to give everyone time to make arrangements. Train station at lincoln, any with cars could ferry to North Hykeham leisure Centre
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: chocl8 on January 19, 2008, 11:49:16 AM
Wow, sounds great! I will be checking my calendar, but don't thinks its a problem :D
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: hybrid_hex on January 19, 2008, 05:13:20 PM
I could make this meet, depending on the times, any idea??
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 19, 2008, 05:29:18 PM
North Hykeham Leisure centre near Lincoln has offered us use of thier sports hall and full inventory of gymnastics equipment for Saturday afternoons from 14:00 to 16:00

This is what Charlie said before, not sure if that was set in stone thou  :-\
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: dr. delicious on January 19, 2008, 11:45:11 PM
is a bit late but a gym round me, in kings lynn has a foam pit so that people from the trampoline can do tricks into. Just wandering if there are any other gyms that has this cus this could really help with trix and flips.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: hybrid_hex on January 20, 2008, 08:08:38 AM
Could be tight, as I would have to get trains from Norwich there and back, will have to think about it!  :Straddle5:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: chocl8 on January 20, 2008, 03:54:29 PM
is a bit late but a gym round me, in kings lynn has a foam pit so that people from the trampoline can do tricks into. Just wandering if there are any other gyms that has this cus this could really help with trix and flips.

We don't think lynn sport will let us, neither will the hudson in Wisbech, we checked... :(
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Gixer on January 21, 2008, 04:39:24 PM
Hi there I'm a newbie from Norwich, just got myself a set of Skyrunners but I'm definitely going to need help and practice getting up and running I think!  Would rather get proper training than try by myself and make a tit of myself or break something  :-[

Glad to see there is an East Anglian group :)  Just wondered if any of you have tried approaching the UEA Sportspark to use as practice?  I work at the UEA and they have great facilities.  Forgive my noob dumb questions but are sports hall floors OK for this sort of thing or can they be a bit slippy?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on January 21, 2008, 04:43:15 PM
sports hall floors are ok alot of other bockers use them we havnt used a hall yet, were doing a meet in norwich on the 23rd of feb if you want to come the details are in another post
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Adam_Circus on January 23, 2008, 10:58:26 AM
Cant make the meet guys :( as could be off on the 1st of march but well done mate chralie!!!! awsome mate!!!
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: theonlysilenthunter on January 24, 2008, 01:05:36 AM
Yeh the UEA sports park might be able to sort something out if there's enough of us. Would be great to be able to try stuff out without having to treck halfway across the county. Gixer..... but who else is close enough to come aswell??
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: carlgreen on January 24, 2008, 01:10:00 AM
where is the UEA?

Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Hoddsy on January 24, 2008, 02:26:42 AM
The UEA is in Norwich.   Id really be very interested in seeing if we could rent gym space there.  Its only a 35 min drive or so from my place which is hell of alot easier than 3h 30min drive to Lincoln
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 09:42:48 AM
Its very unlikely that I would be able to get to lincon. Sure same for others too.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Gixer on January 24, 2008, 04:02:11 PM
Lincoln is a hellish trek from Norwich, and the roads are mostly single carriageway which makes for insanely slow trundling driving stuck behind lorries and difficult to overtake - ARGH!!!!!  It's not classed as "East Anglia" either, is it??

Want me to sound out the UEA for the hire of their halls?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Sx Nutta on January 24, 2008, 04:05:50 PM
Lincoln is miles away from me, well so is norwich, as I am kinda East Midlands, lol
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 04:08:18 PM
That sucks. We need somewhere wth good travel links
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Sx Nutta on January 24, 2008, 04:12:08 PM
I am hoping to move to near norwich, in aug/sept time anyway, as long as i can get a job around there
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 04:40:40 PM
OMG the nutta is comeing near here lol. Na will be good to have a bocking pal  :nana:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: hybrid_hex on January 24, 2008, 06:16:13 PM
If you get the chance to ask Gixer then that would be awsome, Im having trouble getting the time to go down there, as nobody seems to understand down the phone what they are! When I next get the chance, I will take mine to volleyball and show them.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 24, 2008, 06:56:26 PM
It originally seemed that most of the bockers accessing this forum were having difficulty getting access to gyms.

I work in Sport in Lincolnshire and was prepared to help the group get a training venue with equipment and possibly gymnastic expertise to help you learn in a safe environment.

If you can get a venue nearer "East Anglia" go for it as it makes sense.

I will not therefore continue to progress the venue for the EA bockers unless specifically asked to. I do not want to p**s of my contacts or put my rep on the line if no-one can get.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 07:10:27 PM
What you ave possible lined up is fantastic. Thank you very much. I understand with the rep thing. It is important. Its so hard to get a gym and one that everybody can get to. maybe we just need to bomb every place with a sportshall near here and see how it goes. I remember  a school that my dad played cricket inside at weekends. My school should be building a gym so will be open at weekends so maybe then we could use the old one. everything is worth a try.

Just so people know how much effort should be put in a gym meet, who would definatly be interested?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 24, 2008, 07:16:14 PM
I will not therefore continue to progress the venue for the EA bockers unless specifically asked to. I do not want to p**s of my contacts or put my rep on the line if no-one can get.

I think the biggest problem is that this thread is hijacked with other conversation, I think there was proper interest in your gym meet and many of the regular EA's want to come up to the meets and some were defos, I would suggest you start a new thread just asking people who definately can show committment to reply. To keep it on topic any off topic convo I can take off the thread.

I think the EA's would be gutted if this opportunity is taken off the table so to speak.



Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Gixer on January 24, 2008, 07:22:29 PM
 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ didn't mean to hijack anything sorry.....  :-[
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 24, 2008, 07:25:43 PM
:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ didn't mean to hijack anything sorry.....  :-[

I was just talking generally and wasn't aiming at anyone let alone you :)

And don't worry its a forum and topics go haywire all the time, as one post bounces off another and then before you know it we forget what the original question was  ;)
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 07:26:09 PM
I will not therefore continue to progress the venue for the EA bockers unless specifically asked to. I do not want to p**s of my contacts or put my rep on the line if no-one can get.

I think the biggest problem is that this thread is hijacked with other conversation, I think there was proper interest in your gym meet and many of the regular EA's want to come up to the meets and some were defos, I would suggest you start a new thread just asking people who definately can show committment to reply. To keep it on topic any off topic convo I can take off the thread.

I think the EA's would be gutted if this opportunity is taken off the table so to speak.





I think that is a good plan of action. Will leave it to chalie B. His shout
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 24, 2008, 07:32:57 PM
I'd also recommend that if Spud you can pursue the gym you think may give you guys access near you and Gixer to sound out the UEA, then you would have many possible venues to train in as well and that would open up more options for you.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Gixer on January 24, 2008, 07:36:16 PM
Sounds like a plan  ;D  I've asked around on the UEA staff email network too if anyone knows of halls for hire, but so far zippo  :(

How long would you want the hall for - 2 hours?  More?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Sx Nutta on January 24, 2008, 07:38:51 PM
Uni gym would not let me use theirs what so ever! But this is DMU in Leics!!
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 24, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
I think recently one of the gyms JJ's had previously used, didn't let them use it for their upcoming meet.. that's why I think if   an opportunity arises with the equipment etc you really should be grabbing it with both hands!

Also with the one Charlie B is offering you are getting a few sessions, plus equipment and possible proffessional help so its an even better opportunity.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 07:46:58 PM
I'd also recommend that if Spud you can pursue the gym you think may give you guys access near you and Gixer to sound out the UEA, then you would have many possible venues to train in as well and that would open up more options for you.

I will give it a shot
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Gixer on January 24, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
I think recently one of the gyms JJ's had previously used, didn't let them use it for their upcoming meet.. that's why I think if   an opportunity arises with the equipment etc you really should be grabbing it with both hands!

Also with the one Charlie B is offering you are getting a few sessions, plus equipment and possible proffessional help so its an even better opportunity.

It does sound great but it's just a bit of a trek for me :(  Would it be on a weekend?  Only other thing is to organise lift-shares from Norwich?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 24, 2008, 07:57:51 PM
Happy to book first Saturday in March

Understand the issue with travel.

If you want to book venues you must show that you will be proficient and safe so you need some person or people with the following

1) First Aid Qualification
2) Child Protection Qualification (if U18 attending)
3) CRB checked
4) Experience in leading sports events (coach or SLA qualification or experience)
5) if no coaching qual then you need to be able to asses safety and risks on site

talk to County Sports partnership or Local Sports Development Officers as well

Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 24, 2008, 07:59:38 PM
Also can get access to Princess Royal Sports arena in Boston if that is any help
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 08:05:21 PM
What do other groups do for gym meets. do they have all of this. How do they go about it?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: carlgreen on January 24, 2008, 08:06:20 PM
not sure but i can give lifts to this meet and im sure others will too  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Gixer on January 24, 2008, 08:12:41 PM
If you want to book venues you must show that you will be proficient and safe so you need some person or people with the following

1) First Aid Qualification
2) Child Protection Qualification (if U18 attending)
3) CRB checked
4) Experience in leading sports events (coach or SLA qualification or experience)
5) if no coaching qual then you need to be able to asses safety and risks on site

Bloody hell it's never simple anymore is it :(  I aint got any of that - if the UEA are interested shall I point them your way??
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 24, 2008, 08:15:21 PM
Spud

SLA is Sports Leaders Award aimed at over 16`s most schools and colleges will know about this & put you on a course if you want.

Other stuff is run by different sports organisations primarily sports coach UK.

Courses are taking place all the time. I can get people on courses in Lincolnshire others like me exist in other Counties. Quite often there is little or minimal costs for volunteers.

CRB checks can be done via your County Council or Local Authority Sports Development Officers. Again this is generally free for volunteers.

A level 1 coaches course normall costs £80-£100. For bocking gymnastics would be best bet (as it is for Parcour) until such time as the sport develops a national governing body.

Again there can be help from local authorities with the cost.

as this is a bit off topic please e mail me if you want anymore info
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 08:15:50 PM
not sure but i can give lifts to this meet and im sure others will too  :thumbs:

Thats great
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 08:18:36 PM
I will ask my college when I go back in a week. Thanks charlie B!
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 24, 2008, 08:20:20 PM
Gixer

Unfortunately we live in a society that will sue at every opportunity. I have experience ofSolicitors waiting outside school gates asking kids if they have hurt themselves at school & then going legal.

I have also seen coaches taken to court over not providing a safe environment so it is understandable that the authorities are cautious. It also protects the coaches and those leading sport.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 08:26:03 PM
Its very sad I think. Insurance this sue you that. Not covered for this. You cant do this..

We cant escape it  :banghead:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on January 25, 2008, 04:39:12 AM
Happy to book first Saturday in March

Understand the issue with travel.

If you want to book venues you must show that you will be proficient and safe so you need some person or people with the following

1) First Aid Qualification
2) Child Protection Qualification (if U18 attending)
3) CRB checked
4) Experience in leading sports events (coach or SLA qualification or experience)
5) if no coaching qual then you need to be able to asses safety and risks on site

talk to County Sports partnership or Local Sports Development Officers as well



do we all need to have all of those things or between the group i have a sports leader award thing i got from college, its only a low level tho im CRC checked if someone has the first aid and we could just ban the u18's jokin guys
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Gixer on January 25, 2008, 12:17:08 PM
How about this place?

http://www.activenorfolk.org/activity_search.asp?itemid=159&itemtype=venue&section=0001000100030008 (http://www.activenorfolk.org/activity_search.asp?itemid=159&itemtype=venue&section=0001000100030008)

Lady called Jo Thompson 07757-982959

Andrea at work wanted to hire it for kids gymnastics and Jo apparently said "she'd consider it" but Andrea hasn't got back to her since so not sure if the place is hire-able or not.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: theonlysilenthunter on January 25, 2008, 12:31:00 PM
Yeh that looks interesting, wow and just down the road :P well worth looking into. They look as if they do all kinds of stuff so probably able to accomodate us.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 25, 2008, 02:26:38 PM
Do not need all the quals in one person can be had by a group
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on January 25, 2008, 06:44:14 PM
so what quals do people have then lets find out what were missing and see what we can do to get it, im assuming that all over 18s will need to of been CRC checked tho
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 25, 2008, 07:20:33 PM
No you only need to CRB check those people who are directly involved in working with children.

People can offer advice as club members at any time but you would need to allocate someone to be the lead with the U18`s. Suggest this person also goes thru a child protection course (for thier own protection)
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 28, 2008, 11:13:03 AM
Date now agreed

Saturday 1st March 2-4 PM

Venue : North Hykeham Leisure Centre Sports Hall

Parcour Gymnastics coach will be available to train and assist those wanting to develop tricks and tumbles.

Need now to get an idea on who will attend

Please can you post if you are attending

Want a minimum of 10 max of 20/25 so if we do not get enough EA bockers I may post to the wider forum
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: carlgreen on January 28, 2008, 12:08:03 PM
i no im a pain but can u get me a post code so i can sat nav it there?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Bbmthbloke on January 28, 2008, 03:17:14 PM
hi, just a lil note on the insurance, child protection stuff etc.  Down in bournemouth we have been using a gym atleast twice a month since September. At 1st meet in jan we got a health and safty inspection(including a 5 page questioaire ive had to fill out). Once i get my filled in copy back from being scanned, Ill post and do a talk thru. Some of the questions do look daunting.

Glad to say no probs we get on really well with them. They have askeed us to  demonstrate to kids on open days ans stuff. Oh ans we dont have insurance of the child inspection stuff( tho do have U16's).

1 thig we have now put at the top of the gyms section of the JJ website is a note asking people to
a  bring pads
b  water

c let people know if they have had a recent injury or illness
d ask people to take breaks whenever they want
e do gentle warm up  cool down exercises at beginning and end of sessions

Up to individuals  if they want to do the above --- but its a protection for others.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 28, 2008, 03:34:09 PM
That seems great... I think maybe we should just get a form parents sign or something with ilness, allergies
and stuff..bit like scout/ guide GH forms
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Sx Nutta on January 28, 2008, 03:42:42 PM
I can make some forms up, like the ones we have at the youth group
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 28, 2008, 04:07:01 PM
Seems like a good idea. Then we should be able to deal with people in any situation and also shows the gym that we are lookin after people rite..those precaustion things are a good idea too
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Sx Nutta on January 28, 2008, 04:12:52 PM
I have my CRB check, well I got to, as I work at a youth group
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 28, 2008, 04:17:53 PM
child protection courses cost £27 and are very boring... I would go do it...exept err i am still a child LoL
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Bbmthbloke on January 28, 2008, 04:26:16 PM
That may not be the best route. Basically showing the gym what we do is dangerous and we take no responsibiliy, or suggesting it. The trick is to know the H&S questions that will be thrown at you and have open and honest not 'clever' answers.

Id say bocking isnt terribly dangerouss , just looks it. I sometimes think the term 'extreme sports' is a doubleedged weapon at times. We push up the danger factor ---and the wrong people believe it.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 28, 2008, 05:17:25 PM
that psot was in responce to what charlie B had been saying
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: rickbicker26 on January 28, 2008, 06:27:21 PM
i no im a pain but can u get me a post code so i can sat nav it there?

postcode for the centre is LN6 9AX.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 28, 2008, 08:25:22 PM
Really useful to se the H&S questionaire as soon as possible

Do need a medical form authorising organisers (or club) to allow the administering of first aid to those under 16. There are generic forms of the Sport England website. Scouts forms are similar.

We may also need people to sign some form of document agreeing that they are taking part at thier own risk.

Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 28, 2008, 08:50:07 PM
We have got some like that for gliding...however we do have insurance (WE JUST FOUND WAS INVALID) but I think it will still work. I will read it and see if adjustments can be made.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Stik on January 28, 2008, 11:30:14 PM
Hiya, forgive me for asking, but is this gym meet in Lincoln only for East Anglians, or can any of us attend?  Myself and my girlfriend would be interested in coming, as it is 30 minutes up the A1 for us
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Adam_Circus on January 29, 2008, 05:21:59 PM
Just a couple of questions............

1. Does every guy/gal that goes who is over 18 need a crb???
2. Do we need a crb done by that leisure centre or will crb from other places (e.g. scouts, work) do????
3.Do we need 1 person to adminster all the first aid for the meet??? and if so do they need a full first aid??? or would first respsonse cover us???
4. is there a train station close to the sports centre??? if not could anyone pick me and joe up from the train station???

There is a chance i could be leaving for new job on 1st of march so might not be able to meet but will find out this thursday so will keep you guys posted.

:D
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 29, 2008, 05:49:48 PM
Hiya, forgive me for asking, but is this gym meet in Lincoln only for East Anglians, or can any of us attend?  Myself and my girlfriend would be interested in coming, as it is 30 minutes up the A1 for us

I think this is open to anyone who can make it - Just Pm Charlie B if you need more info :thumbs:

Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: rickbicker26 on January 29, 2008, 06:34:04 PM

4. is there a train station close to the sports centre??? if not could anyone pick me and joe up from the train station???

:D

There is a train station in North Hykeham that is a 800yrds from the leisure centre but its very rare for the trains to stop there might be best to check with that it does stop there on that day.

If not and you go to lincoln train station the bus station isnt very far away if u cant get anyone to take u there and you'd need the number 27 bus going to Asda and you can get off right near the leisure centre then shouldnt be more than £3 for a return ticket on bus
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 29, 2008, 06:38:57 PM
Just a couple of questions............
1. Does every guy/gal that goes who is over 18 need a crb???

Charlie B mentioned on the last page that one person with CRB in the group would be sufficient.

Just a couple of questions............
2. Do we need a crb done by that leisure centre or will crb from other places (e.g. scouts, work) do????

Im sure if you have a CRB from one place it should be sufficient as I'm sure they all access the same records?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 29, 2008, 08:20:41 PM
Just to clear things up

CRB checks are only needed for those organising an event or those that are working directly with children either in a profesional or voluntary sense.

As I have the qualification none of you attending need one. However if others have been CRB Checked then that is great. The CRB question came about because others were asking what was needed to gain access to leisure centres etc.

Only one person on site needs to have undertaken an emergency aid course. Again if anyone has done a full first aid course great. I have that covered for the Lincoln event

There is very little most of you have to do apart from turn up !!!

There will be a requirement for all participating to sign a medical consent form on the day.

The only other rules I am looking into relate to safety. Not quite sure at the moment as to what may be required from Health & Safety. Will let you all know after the risk assesment is done.

Also the Parcour Gymnast instructor at the centre has agreed to attend. Talking to him this week
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 29, 2008, 08:22:36 PM
Quite happy for the event to be open to all, if that is the case should we start a new thread in events /meets ?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 29, 2008, 08:27:19 PM
I can split the post for you from the EA bockers area to the main area at the point you confirmed the details if you want? So the first post would read as follows and all discussion after it would be in the new thread? Or you may want to open a new one altogether, your call m8

Date now agreed

Saturday 1st March 2-4 PM

Venue : North Hykeham Leisure Centre Sports Hall

Parcour Gymnastics coach will be available to train and assist those wanting to develop tricks and tumbles.

Need now to get an idea on who will attend

Please can you post if you are attending

Want a minimum of 10 max of 20/25 so if we do not get enough EA bockers I may post to the wider forum
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Gixer on January 29, 2008, 08:35:51 PM
I'd love to come, spesh that there's a parcour coach there, but it's at least a 2 hour drive and will take up an entire Saturday - I'm really busy with Fuzzbutt orders and a full day is valuable to get a load of stuff sewn :(   b*mmer :(
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on January 29, 2008, 08:38:44 PM
I want to go too. Just travel..This hard work will one day pay off. Bocking will be a real sport and stuff!
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 29, 2008, 08:41:36 PM
Off topic but what is fuzzbutt !!!
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on January 29, 2008, 08:43:02 PM
Naz

I will set up a seperate thread when the paperwork is completed and the venue confirmed which should be within the next 10 days.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on January 29, 2008, 08:44:04 PM
thats f9 leave it to you  :thumbs:

as for fuzzbutt see www.fuzzbutt.co.uk
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on January 31, 2008, 01:53:38 AM
if we dont get enough EA's tho and too many people turn up will we be allowed in, i dont want the meet gettin ruined because to many people turned up
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on February 01, 2008, 08:14:27 PM
I am visiting the centre this week to find out what capacity the centre manager will set. As I said before need to confirm who will attend. If you commit you will get in (I will make sure of it)

If there is a lot of interest then I will book other dates

The Centre is very keen to develop and support this, the parcour guys are also interested to meet us so looks really good

There is begining to be interest shown by the local sports partnerships and also the media

May well be able to get BBC radio Lincolnshire/ Look North (or is it Calendar) down to the venue so those of you that can flip can strutt your stuff !!!
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on February 01, 2008, 08:26:38 PM
from the posts the following have suggested they would attend

Doc Delicious
Hybrid Hex
Chocl8
Rickbicker26
Trickster
carlgreen
SX Nutta
Stik + GF
Spud (if can get a lift etc)
Charlie B
Jester

Is this still right and are there anymore ?
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: rickbicker26 on February 01, 2008, 08:30:05 PM
yep i'm going as i dont live to far from the leisure centre might walk there on my bocks if its not to wet and windy
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: chocl8 on February 01, 2008, 10:28:04 PM
those of you that can flip can strutt your stuff !!!

ah.... :D
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on February 02, 2008, 05:42:46 AM
Ill be ther but need at least 10 days notice the more the better tho but minimum ten days but post well in advance so i can book it off to make sure im there if you post well in advance ill get it off, and its Trixster not trickster
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on February 02, 2008, 01:30:52 PM
date is 1st march so that should give you enough time, sorry about the missspelling
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on February 03, 2008, 06:09:48 AM
Its ok bout the spellin id got in from work and work was bad n i was just in amood normally stuff like that dont affect me sorry lol.

1st of march sounds good to me ill talk to work next time im in so on tuesday 2 days off in a row im privalleged lol

erm few questions tho about this do we need to pay anythink for the hall etc and do we need to fill forms etc in and what time isit i know its posted sumwer but cant find it
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: carlgreen on February 04, 2008, 11:31:16 AM
yeh its like a 2 and a half hour drive for me but i suppose im still willing to come and i bet my m8 billy will to so im coming i no someone posted it but a post code wouldnt go a miss on the info page i assume im not the only one  using sat nav to get there
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on February 04, 2008, 11:14:04 PM
Interested

Doc Delicious
Hybrid Hex
Chocl8
Rickbicker26
Trixster
carlgreen +M8
SX Nutta
Stik + GF
Spud (if can get a lift etc)
Charlie B
Jester


Saturday 1st March 2-4 PM

Venue : North Kesteven Sports Centre (not North Hykeham Leisure centre)
Moor Lane
North Hykeham, Lincoln, LN6 9AX

01522 883311

Cost for Hall £40 will split equally among those who turn up. I will book and pay you provide the cash on the day.





Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: rickbicker26 on February 04, 2008, 11:32:47 PM
oh one more thing the traffic in lincoln can get pretty bad on saturdays to, to many lazy buggers in this town who drive into town even though there a 10 minute walk away.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Trixter on February 05, 2008, 01:39:17 AM
im assumin we are able to park at the sports place yea and i will post if i will deffinatly be ther wen i see my proper manager 2moz and do we need to pay anythink
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: webmaster on February 05, 2008, 01:54:18 AM
Cost for Hall £40 will split equally among those who turn up. I will book and pay you provide the cash on the day.

So the more there is the cheaper it will be... but would depend how big the hall is and how many it can accomodate without it getting crowded.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: hybrid_hex on February 05, 2008, 07:58:10 PM
I am off work this day, and can make it, is there any chance of getting a lift from a fellow EA?????? else It will be busses and trains, and I might not be able to make it back to Norfolk in time then!

Help me EA's!!!!  :Straddle5:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on February 05, 2008, 08:11:43 PM
Ely from norwich isnt too bad. Thats how I will be getting there. Cambridge train calls at ely. But if somebody could get me from the train station that would help me loads and loads and loads. But really I dont think I can afford the train ticket
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: hybrid_hex on February 05, 2008, 08:18:18 PM
Read your posts spud, this one is for Lincoln, not ELy!  :haha:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Spud on February 05, 2008, 08:19:50 PM
oops haha. Threads get confuzzling. No way i could get to lincon.
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Sx Nutta on February 05, 2008, 08:47:52 PM
I may be getting a ride to Lincoln, lol
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Stik on February 14, 2008, 12:43:00 AM
Yeah, we're confirmed as coming.   I'm coming from Grantham, if there's anyone on the way (i guess Newark) who needs a lift then i'm happy to help. 
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Sx Nutta on February 14, 2008, 03:08:31 AM
I just want to have ago at jumping over things and flipping  :banana:
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on February 14, 2008, 08:19:03 AM
Plenty of stuff like that there as well as Coaches

SX if its a pain to get to lincoln if you can get to mine (35 mins up the A46) I will take you to lincoln
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Sx Nutta on February 14, 2008, 08:35:25 AM
Cheers Charlie, I will keep you updated on how I am getting there, got to talk to someone first
Title: Re: Indoor Training area
Post by: Charlie B on February 14, 2008, 09:48:33 AM
Info on layout etc now on thread

http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1661.0
Stik add you to the list is it you and your GF ?