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YOUR JUMPING STILTS => Before you buy questions => Topic started by: Trinitrophenol on January 19, 2009, 06:57:39 PM
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Hey guys! I been in touch with the factories and they had told me about the soon to be released models!
CZ series are supposedly better in design and functionality! Carbon Fiber Springs FTW! Might see them in Projump soon :banana:
Here's a sneak preview of the CZ series, enjoy drooling :biggrin:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/trinitrophenol/CZ0834-FE.jpg)
CZ0834
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/trinitrophenol/CZ0723.jpg)
CZ0723 Pro
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/trinitrophenol/CZ0834Aluminium.jpg)
CZ0834 - Aluminum
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/trinitrophenol/CZ0834AL.jpg)
Another pic of CZ0834 Aluminum
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Hey guys! I been in touch with the factories and they had told me about the soon to be released models!
CZ series are supposedly better in design and functionality! Carbon Fiber Springs FTW! Might see them in Projump soon :banana:
Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
The last time FlyingLocust came up with "better design and functionality" it was pulled from sales after about 2 months due to equipment design failures. Carbon fibre springs ftw? You are aware they've been around 2 years now, and have been on ProJumps for at least 15 months?
CZ0723 Pro are horrendously like Upwings, infact I'm certain they are UpWings with new cuffs.
Here's a sneak preview of the CZ series, enjoy drooling :biggrin:
I believe the word you are looking for is "vomiting", not "drooling".
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oh well.. that's the info they gave me >.>
just wanted to share. Dun flame me
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kay now those just look weird, and what's so wrong with having a nice solid hoof these days?
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nobody's flaming you, just giving their opinion.
Show me something impressive and I might drool.
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actually i was planning to get one after a bad incident with the skyrunners.. (might be giving them away for a birthday gift heh) considering the ones posted above, should i get the CZ0823 aluminum or just stick with the normal Powerstrider/Projumps M115 with Calf Cuffs and Ski Binders Upgrade?
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Looks like China will never learn and continue to share pics of new products before the seller is ready to launch them... Oh Well!
I've got some close up pics somewhere of the latest design, but can’t find them at the moment, this is the newer design that FL have been working on and its looking much more solid that the versions made in mid 2008, also for a change they have been properly tested in China using bocker’s that took part in the Olympic opening ceremony rather than just using their machines, which means they are ironing out a lot of issues prior to selling them.
Having said the above, they are due into us very soon and we will only be ordering them if after tests by ourselves they are ready to be sold and we are confident in the design, usability and performance of them.
The springs used with these are also a new design, they are a different mould, to ones used previously and are doing extremely well in tests but again we shall see once we have them here.
Check the jpg below showing the difference from the Upwing design, to the ones designed in Mid 2008 and then the latest version. The new design uses a reinforced footplate which is one of the changes that SpeedJumper made when they modded the Mid 2008 design from FL.
These stilts will be available in two frame versions, after tests we will decide which, if any or both we shall be selling. Also will have the option of having a calf cuff or not.
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Woah, Naz, those bocks look leet!
Any news of how much they'll be?
Fysh
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I'm not even going to go there!
This info & pictures have been with the dealers for months and there was a good reason why they were not made public, its a shame that the manufacturer has once again released premature info. There will be no news on price, release dates etc unless we have tested them, happy with them and ordered them.
Initial feedback from their tests, pics & vids makes these stilts becoming a reality promising :thumbs:
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actually i was planning to get one after a bad incident with the skyrunners.. (might be giving them away for a birthday gift heh) considering the ones posted above, should i get the CZ0823 aluminum or just stick with the normal Powerstrider/Projumps M115 with Calf Cuffs and Ski Binders Upgrade?
Unless you want to wait around, then I would choose whats available in the market at the moment :)
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I do feel for ya Naz sometimes :-) LOL
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geeee thanks :D lol
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sorry naz for releasing the pics earlier ><
seems like the new models are already receiving bad feedback :-[
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Yes, it's because some places released bocks like these (upwings) over a year ago and they really were half baked cakes. They were not very good and you would have been better on a standard pair. It's a new design and while the standard designs work with no problems and rumors go about how bad they were it's hard to make people think they will be decent.
Projump never released them because they were not good enough. Projump havens posted pics up, given a date or price until they test and make sure the bocks are good enough. Things might yet have to change ect and until the release it doesn't need to be common knowledge. They are managing people's expectations: when they are released they will be good enough and tested, because they are being tested and things may not be good enough they can't give date or price.
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actually i was planning to get one after a bad incident with the skyrunners.. (might be giving them away for a birthday gift heh) considering the ones posted above, should i get the CZ0823 aluminum or just stick with the normal Powerstrider/Projumps M115 with Calf Cuffs and Ski Binders Upgrade?
I got M90 Powerstriders for Xmas an there GREAT!! put some hoofies on there an they've got so much grip really recomend them. My friend has some old Powerizers with calf cuffs an I didn't get on with them at all! I'm glad I listened to some advice i got on here and didn't buy calf cuffs stright away! The knee bar offers a lot of protection when your starting out!
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The knee bar offers a lot of protection when your starting out!
I am going a bit off topic here but the knee bar really isnt designed for protection and actually doesnt help a lot at all if you really bail, the bar goes below the knee depending how you land your knees could take a lot of impact. Knee bar or cuffs, you need pads the same :S
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Here is a video i found of the new design. Actually looks pretty nice.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&rlz=1B2DVFC_enUS209US209&q=upwing%20CZ-0834&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iv#
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Thats a vid of the old upwing!
This is the new one...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=scbsFdTm-9k
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sorry, just gave the wrong web address. Heres the correct one of the new model:D
Something that concernas me about the new models is the bar under the footplate that attaches to the spring. instead of being straight, its bent a lot. i wonder wat would happen if you bottom too hard.
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Here is a video i found of the new design. Actually looks pretty nice.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&rlz=1B2DVFC_enUS209US209&q=upwing%20CZ-0834&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iv#
These look SICK!! Does any one have them? Or know if there worth getting?
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Here is a video i found of the new design. Actually looks pretty nice.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&rlz=1B2DVFC_enUS209US209&q=upwing%20CZ-0834&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iv#
These look SICK!! Does any one have them? Or know if there worth getting?
Those ones were developed over a year ago but the design has some flaws hence were never sold by us. The new ones are the ones shown on the second vid & the pics in the first post.
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why are people being so negative about this design, we really have no clue how it'll hold up. We know not to take anything the FL factory says at face value but Naz already said they're on the way to the UK for testing we'll see how they hold up then.
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im really hoping these are nice. would be nice to have a new design, hopefully they weigh less too, maybe like skips weight
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I must say that I like the new frames and they look fairly strong
Not sure about the new tube section under the footplate I prefer the old style (simpler and no welds) but if it is made well it should be OK
And I can't see why people are so worried about the bolts running through the spring if it is reinforced well in that area it will be no weaker than the previous one if anything it will spread the load better as the old tube causes a thin line of loading and the plate spreads it
Lets hope they work and arrive soon :nanadance:
Jason :Hoofies2:
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so jason are you saying that welding will weaken it???
as u know im a welder and i know alot about all the resions for it etc
and i know that a weld will be stronger than ther parent material
but then this is as long as it is a good weld :dot:
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Yes Toddy the weld is stronger if only by being a thicker section but
Aluminium welding is a very fine art and needs to be done very well
The normal failure point is where the weld meets the parent metal
In my past experience I have very seldom had a component machined from solid or extruded section fail without a good reason but have seen welds fail with no obvious reason
I am not saying that welds are weaker and more prone to failure as properly done they are not just that there is less chance of failure in the old design and that I prefer the old bit from an engineering point of view
I must add though the artistic part of me thinks the new part is a much prettier shape :biggrin:
Jason :Hoofies2:
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http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2227016 take a look at this. seems like trinitrophenol is selling these bocks. hmm...
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oppsi daisy lol
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minus 200 cool points >.<
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PowerStrider / UpWing (M115) with Free Upgrades of Calf Cuffs and Ski Binders - SGD$480.00
(PS: http://www.powerstriders.com/pombsh.html sells it for USD$489.99 without Shipping and Ski Binders! , even http://www.pro-jump.co.uk/pp/Buy-Pro...-Bindings.html sells it at GBP£180.00 (~SGD$540.00) w/o shipping!)
1) no, with postage
2) he is selling skyrunners also
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http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2227016 take a look at this. seems like trinitrophenol is selling these bocks. hmm...
FAAAAIL. LOL. :D
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lets not give his links any more exposure plz! His ebay links have been removed so I reckon his an illegal seller as well...
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my bad, want me to take it away?
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its cool dont worry :Cwink:
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Think I need to clarify this, I got my deal from FL and there is a local seller offering SkyRunners also and he asked me to post online to sell his stuff too, the price stated is for my local market , and I already mentioned before I don't send to patent protected areas in case I violate any patents. I am still free to sell in other countries right? Please don't jump into conclusions that I am an illegal seller. Why are you people so negative? I am just sharing the info and I didn't said anything in this post about selling them. I am just as interested in bocking as you are, so don't be so judgmental. Think I should stop posting anymore since I am not welcome here. :Cmask:
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Hi
If you came on here and said, "I'm a seller in "blah blah" country and this is the new products I'm selling from FL and I thought as they don't seem to have been advertised here I will share them with you" Nobody would have judged you
We just like members to be upfront on here thats all :Csmile:
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I came in here as a newbie to bocking , never intending to sell, its only recently I managed to clinch a deal with FL. Oh well. So much misunderstandings.
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do you need to leave :Cnah: should you chill :Cyes: misunderstanding :Ctwitcy:
Pro jumps new smilies :Cnotworthy:
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ha ha ha ha sorry
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Hi all
So what about this model?
I've heard about the tests, but didn't find any official results.
I'm from Russia and I've bought those bocks (CZ0834 Al 70kg) directly from the plant.
A week of bocking, I say they're are great, a little lighter and much stronger then the old ones.
Official dealers in Russia do not sell them and can't answer anything but "those bocks were tested in London". No results, just telling us about the tests month after month.
So could you tell me, what's about those tests?
With best regards, Kot
P.S. Some pics of my bocks:
(http://sp-gmc.narod.ru/P7140132_1.jpg)
(http://sp-gmc.narod.ru/P7140133_1.jpg)
(http://sp-gmc.narod.ru/P7140134_1.jpg)
(http://sp-gmc.narod.ru/P7140135_1.jpg)
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Tests are still been carried out and some things still need to be rectified before they can be sold to the public.
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Tests are still been carried out and some things still need to be rectified before they can be sold to the public.
I wanted to know if there are some new informations about this model?
Would they be sold this year ? Or would they sold never?
LG