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Title: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Opal on April 23, 2008, 11:44:05 PM
Hi Guys  :thumbs:

Due to the success of the previous two, IBz are proud to announce their 3rd gym session.

Location : The Black Lion Sports Centre, Mill Road, Gillingham, Kent, ME7 1HF
Time      : 4pm - 7pm

Current list of attendees

Carma
Toddy
Kelly
Opal
KentLee
Tok
RedRomper (?)
Wally247
CosmicYankee AKA BEN!

Would be great to see more of you coming along too!

 :banana:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on April 24, 2008, 12:06:24 AM
awesome ill be there for sure...
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on April 24, 2008, 12:08:43 AM
Hell yeah i'll be there!
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on April 24, 2008, 05:52:54 PM
Don't forget Ben!

-Carma (The Bocking Rocker)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on April 24, 2008, 11:39:54 PM
who ben or dont we wonna know... :banana:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on April 25, 2008, 12:37:10 PM
He's already introduced himself Lee, he's my mate from America... And what are you trying to say eh? ;). I am done with partners for a looong time lol...

-Carma (The Bocking Rocker)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Opal on April 25, 2008, 07:41:46 PM
Well, the more the merrier!  ;D

I'm actively trying to get more people to come along :D

It's gonna be a heavy weekend that weekend though! Lots of work and fun to be had :thumbs:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on April 25, 2008, 07:47:31 PM
Really fancy this one I'll chat to clive over the weekend and see if the Hanworth Banned can make it

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Red_romper on April 25, 2008, 07:54:28 PM
Cool just found out I'd got my dates wrong so I'll be able to come wooo
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on April 25, 2008, 08:09:27 PM
Good news romper! And Jason, you and clive HAVE to getyour butts down here! Show us young'uns how its done ;)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on April 25, 2008, 08:18:34 PM
We will try our best Tok

I have new carbon springs now and I feel like I am getting more height easier now so want advice on gaining height just can't seem to get the arm action right  :biggrin:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on April 25, 2008, 08:51:52 PM
So you're coming then Tok!!!

-Carma
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on April 25, 2008, 10:51:34 PM
I think I've managed to blag the afternoon off work for it so hopefully yes! give a diffinate answer next week :D
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on April 25, 2008, 10:57:36 PM
Good, then Toks coming. Everyone, ignor any usage of 'no' from Tok. Mwahahaha

-Carma (The Bocking Rocker)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on April 25, 2008, 11:39:41 PM
 :banana: woop hope you can make it JASON and also CLIVE will be a great meet there is loads of people coming by the sounds of it..... OMG i cant wait...
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on April 25, 2008, 11:46:45 PM
To everyone: There is someone coming from Chicago USA, so if you can make it, please do!!! It would be amazing!!

-Carma (The Bocking Rocker)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: DJ MIDNIGHT on April 26, 2008, 09:06:51 AM
i might be able to make it depending if i av the money as i dnt work any more soo. well i shud do coz its my b day on the 5th may so i shud get sum. i no how to get to gillingham but dnt no where that gym is. btw can i bring friends that dnt av pjs and they can use mine or saink
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on April 26, 2008, 10:14:07 AM
the gym is just down the high street from the train station.

and bring as many people as you want.
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Red_romper on April 26, 2008, 04:55:57 PM
Bit of a strange question but does anyone who's coming have 9st junior pjs? It's just my parents both had a go today and my dad was fine on mine but my mum found the bocks too heavy. She sort of wants to get into them and I thought I could bring her along to the gym and maybe someone would have let her borrow theirs for a while.
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Opal on April 26, 2008, 07:41:35 PM
What about Wiillz and HalfRubbish? Did we ever hear from them again?  ???

We need more ppl !!! :banana:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on April 27, 2008, 11:45:21 AM
Bit of a strange question but does anyone who's coming have 9st junior pjs? It's just my parents both had a go today and my dad was fine on mine but my mum found the bocks too heavy. She sort of wants to get into them and I thought I could bring her along to the gym and maybe someone would have let her borrow theirs for a while.

To be honest, we all found them heavy to start with. Juniors wouldn't be the best idea I would think. She's welcome to try my 60's? They are everso broken in too

Also, Opal, looks like Jason and Clive are gunna try to make it. And I WILL make Jack (BigBadBounceBoy) come along

-Carma (The Bocking Rocker)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on April 27, 2008, 08:33:38 PM
 :banana: WOOP cant wait im gonna be flipping by the end of the day.... i wont leave till i can...
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on April 27, 2008, 08:41:00 PM
we could be a while then ;) haha
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on April 27, 2008, 09:19:36 PM
Been told!

-Carma (The Bocking Rocker)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Wally247 on April 27, 2008, 11:26:53 PM
Ok Dudes im deffo going to be there!!!!

ohhh and i can jump like 2-3foot now lol and iv only had bocks just over a week lol YAY
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on April 28, 2008, 07:48:12 AM
 :banana: woop morw pwople only a few weeks now......

@TOK i promise im not leaving till i can flip...... im gonna cry if i cant..... :thumbs:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Red_romper on May 02, 2008, 07:29:02 PM
OK cross me off the list for the next few months I'll explain another time
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Opal on May 03, 2008, 12:53:59 AM
s**t, sorry to hear that m8 :( Hope everything's ok and we hope to see you back as soon as possible  :thumbs:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Wally247 on May 03, 2008, 12:32:02 PM
damn thats not good lol i was hopeing for a lift lol
cu on thurs
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on May 03, 2008, 12:40:40 PM
NOooooooooooooooooo! Romper! Who gunna do the dance with me!!!

-Carma (The Bocking Rocker)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 03, 2008, 04:12:38 PM
oh dont worry carma i will dance with you :banana:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 03, 2008, 05:33:15 PM
 :banana: woop not long now guys i cant wait.. :banana:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on May 03, 2008, 08:26:41 PM
It's going to be so so awesome! YEY!

-Carma
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on May 03, 2008, 10:45:20 PM
Romper, hope everythings ok man! Keep us posted, even if you can come as "ground crew" would be nice to have you along! Can appreciate if things are a little more complicated though, just hope all is ok!
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Spud on May 04, 2008, 12:18:31 PM
I am gonna get to one of your gym meets...but probs not this one...yesterday has put me off train travel for a very very long time.

 :spudT:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on May 05, 2008, 09:27:40 PM
awww shame spud! would be awesome to have you along
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Spud on May 05, 2008, 09:29:53 PM
I will try my best to come a long to one of these soon  :thumbs:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 11, 2008, 09:07:48 PM
can i surgest that we meet up befor hand and bounce around gillingham high street??
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on May 11, 2008, 09:29:41 PM
Sounds good Toddy

So long as there isn't any sand  :haha:

What sort of time were you thinking Clive and I are comming to the gym and a bounce before would warm us up nicely

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 11, 2008, 09:46:35 PM
i was thinking about 1ish

as then all the carboots will be over :nana: and my work done

Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on May 11, 2008, 10:47:37 PM
Sunday is gunna be like the one day Ben and I will have free so we can make the Gillingham bounce about. His stilts are gunna be brand new though, and probably not gunna be broken in for the gym boo!

-Carma
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: carlgreen on May 11, 2008, 10:56:22 PM
will try and get there really enjoyed bouncing around with lee and tok today
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Greggles on May 11, 2008, 11:12:16 PM
il c if i can get to this them me tok and lee can have a flip off :D will b fun
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 11, 2008, 11:41:51 PM
 :banana: @carl would be good to get you along to this gym meet. p.s today was awesome...
@greg hope you can make it to the gym would be great... you can show me how to back flip :P...
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Greggles on May 12, 2008, 09:48:47 AM
is as easy as making pie lee ll hope i can make it will b phat
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Spud on May 12, 2008, 12:15:24 PM
Not for me this time but soon  ;)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: hybrid_hex on May 12, 2008, 01:57:59 PM
I was going to drive my car back to work this sunday (1st time driving any long distance alone! ARGH!!) Might have to see about a detour to Gillingham!! Will see how I feel and what I can do!! So might see you all there!!!  :Straddle5:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 12, 2008, 04:21:39 PM
it would be really nice to see you there
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: clive on May 12, 2008, 05:21:38 PM
jason and i will be there this sunday should be a good meet
we will get there before and have a look around and see what we can jump
see you all there clive&jason
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 12, 2008, 05:32:33 PM
 :banana: what time are people meeting and where on sunday cos it would be good to get a bounce before....
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Wally247 on May 12, 2008, 05:41:58 PM
ok dudes im gona try and be there..
unfortunatly red wont as he got his bocks confiscated for not doing physisc cw
so will try and be there, btw where is gillingham highstreet?
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 12, 2008, 05:51:24 PM
i did surgest about 1 ish

and the high street is just a bit thurther on down the road(befor you turn off down the black lion)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 12, 2008, 10:13:50 PM
 :banana: so its 1 o'clock at the station then for this meet....
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Spud on May 12, 2008, 10:16:25 PM
anybody going from down my way?
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 14, 2008, 06:38:44 AM
well this gym meet looks to be a great meet, we should have loads of fun

and just for jason i will bring a bag of sand :nana:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on May 14, 2008, 07:06:20 AM
Rock n Roll, should be able 15 of us, if not more.

Oh, and by the way, gym is £5 for 3 hours :)

-Carma
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 14, 2008, 07:54:43 AM
 :banana: erm for 3 hours and 15 people its not gonna cost £5 if we split it 15 ways its not gonna be that much...

also im getting to the gym at about 1-half1 so if people wonna meet there then feel free to come for a bounce round town lol......
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 15, 2008, 07:23:46 PM
i cant wait

there will be loads of people there and we sould see lee and tok flipping

yay :banana: :banana:yay
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on May 16, 2008, 12:20:31 AM
i cant wait

there will be loads of people there and we sould see lee and tok flipping

yay :banana: :banana:yay

Well thats Lee and Tok "atempting" to flip! lol
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: tundraH on May 16, 2008, 09:10:45 AM
I'm looking forward to meeting Tok the most as it would be nice not to have to look down at everybody.  :P
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Joe Legg on May 16, 2008, 09:24:53 AM
well yeah i think its 3/4 jj's coming now and we should get to kent abut 1ish if not earlyer.  :thumbs:

also if you hear some sought of disney track about 1pm at the gym its probably the jj mobil. my fav is still akuna-ma-tata  :nana:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: tundraH on May 16, 2008, 09:32:44 AM
It is 4 Joe, Ash is now coming, if you had read the JJ thread you would know.  :P
I thought you were joking about the disney music for the trip.  I think I might have to bring my ear defenders along with me for some peace and quiet.
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Trixter on May 16, 2008, 10:04:40 AM
whys it a fiver each theres like 20 ppl goin gyms dont cost that much thats like £100 for a gym for 3 hours slightly OTT i think
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: hybrid_hex on May 16, 2008, 06:26:13 PM
Not sure If I will be there now people, my nan has gone into hospital and is in a bad way, so going to go and see her sat and sunday, might still come down though, we shall see.   
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on May 16, 2008, 06:43:42 PM
Charging a fiver isnt my idea persay, more ideas from other Bockers. This is due to us trying to raise funds for our group, and several great projects in the pipeline which would be a good addition for all Bockers local to us. I understand why if people refused to pay, as it's something I would ask questions about myself, but a fiver really isn't that much money, and if one person said no, that means we couldn't charge anyone a fiver. Not to mention if someone not from the IBz came every week and refused to pay, funding these projects will be impossible. But to be honest, I don't really care whatever way.

-Carma
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: sprog on May 16, 2008, 08:06:16 PM
whys it a fiver each theres like 20 ppl goin gyms dont cost that much thats like £100 for a gym for 3 hours slightly OTT i think
AGREED. With the JJ gym sessions when there's only 4 of us it still only works out as £4 each.
but a fiver really isn't that much money
Try living on a student loan and working a 40 hour week for no money at all, for your work or the transport either way.

I will pay for my share of hiring the hall, etc, but I think a £5 is too much for the number of people there...
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Sx Nutta on May 16, 2008, 08:12:39 PM
Looks like I will not be there, due to me coming back to essex on sunday, and problems at home
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Bbmthbloke on May 16, 2008, 10:49:49 PM
Charging a fiver isnt my idea persay, more ideas from other Bockers. This is due to us trying to raise funds for our group, and several great projects in the pipeline which would be a good addition for all Bockers local to us. I understand why if people refused to pay, as it's something I would ask questions about myself, but a fiver really isn't that much money, and if one person said no, that means we couldn't charge anyone a fiver. Not to mention if someone not from the IBz came every week and refused to pay, funding these projects will be impossible. But to be honest, I don't really care whatever way.



-Carma

Whoes idea was it then? Some1 must own it.

I got an invite to this event.

To now find Im being asked to subsdise some un specified, future event that has nothing to do with me and which i wouldnt have been aware of unless some1 had asked about the funding levels, is to be honest  a little bothersome.
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on May 16, 2008, 10:54:23 PM
I don't mind paying my way for the cost of the gym hire, but thats it. I also agree with Bbmthbloke, why should others, who will not see the "profit" to be made from this hve to pay towards? Heck I'll pay the JJ's fee as they've made the effort to come down and see us, let alone ask them to pay towards a fund! Especialy as no one knows what this fund is even for!
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Wally247 on May 16, 2008, 10:57:27 PM
im just intrested in these feauture events that i totaly know nothing about dispite being an IB...


lets not make this a gang up on carma session or ne one else for that matter, but who did create the whole £5 thingy? cos it cost les than that last time methinks, although i must admit i cant reber...


also if there is a bank account, then the ibs need to see some accounts and i belive it starts entering the grey area in which there needs to be an agm ect...

but dont quote me on that

am still comming on sat and am looking forward to it nomatter what i end up paying  ;D
Quote from: Tok


link=topic=2049.msg29857#msg29857 date=1210974863
I don't mind paying my way for the cost of the gym hire, but thats it. I also agree with Bbmthbloke, why should others, who will not see the "profit" to be made from this hve to pay towards? Heck I'll pay the JJ's fee as they've made the effort to come down and see us, let alone ask them to pay towards a fund! Especialy as no one knows what this fund is even for!

also agree with the above  ;D methinks we should be an non proffit group...

Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on May 16, 2008, 11:03:14 PM
I'm not blaming anyone, kinda just wish i was a little more informed as to what I'm paying towards. It'd be nice to see where money is going. Also everyone should have to choice to pay it, if you dont pay, then you dont get the benefits, rather than making everyone chip in to something they arent going to benefit from
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Joe Legg on May 16, 2008, 11:13:01 PM
ok im not on any side here as im traveling up just to meet new bocker i havnt seen before and have a good time.
Im happy to pay my share for the gym as i would expect anyone attending it as its just courtesy.
so i dont know about the rest of you but how we do it at the jj gym is see how many people come and split the costs. happy days.
so i say lets not play the blame games and scrap the 5 pound rules and just split the price everyones happy. and if anyone want to pay a little more let them.

thats all im going to say

rancher out. :thumbs:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Wally247 on May 16, 2008, 11:13:50 PM
I'm not blaming anyone, kinda just wish i was a little more informed as to what I'm paying towards. It'd be nice to see where money is going. Also everyone should have to choice to pay it, if you dont pay, then you dont get the benefits, rather than making everyone chip in to something they arent going to benefit from

i think/hope i just found the answer check out the IBz thread and then go to the last page of "funding the IBz"

soz i aint got the link

i agree wif sr
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on May 16, 2008, 11:18:22 PM
ok im not on any side here as im traveling up just to meet new bocker i havnt seen before and have a good time.
Im happy to pay my share for the gym as i would expect anyone attending it as its just courtesy.
so i dont know about the rest of you but how we do it at the jj gym is see how many people come and split the costs. happy days.
so i say lets not play the blame games and scrap the 5 pound rules and just split the price everyones happy. and if anyone want to pay a little more let them.

thats all im going to say

rancher out. :thumbs:

Thats what I'm trying to say, just coming across wrong lol
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Wally247 on May 16, 2008, 11:23:04 PM
ok im not on any side here as im traveling up just to meet new bocker i havnt seen before and have a good time.
Im happy to pay my share for the gym as i would expect anyone attending it as its just courtesy.
so i dont know about the rest of you but how we do it at the jj gym is see how many people come and split the costs. happy days.
so i say lets not play the blame games and scrap the 5 pound rules and just split the price everyones happy. and if anyone want to pay a little more let them.

thats all im going to say

rancher out. :thumbs:

Thats what I'm trying to say, just coming across wrong lol

agreement lol
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on May 17, 2008, 12:00:22 AM
Just to put my two penneths worth in (or fivers worth in this case :biggrin:)

I am normally fairly flush when it comes to money (the wife holds the purse strings thank god  :biggrin:)

Now I have no objection to paying whatever the going cost is and that should be set by the club holding the meet and if what is spare goes to something for the club or sport so be it

That is my opinion and at my time of life £5 is not a lot but I can also understand that a lot of you folks are students or just starting out in jobs and money can get tight so for a lot of people the cost of traveling to a meet and then £5 on top would be the decider as to which meets you attend

Now the Essex Gym cost £1 due to the high attendance (at first I was told £2 and when lots turned up they dropped it to £1) I do understand why the Invicta Bockerz are charging but think you are going to drive a lot of the less wealthy Bockers away from gym meets (and a lot of the really skillfull Bockers are in that catagory)

So if moneys short and you can save £4 I think I can guess where all the bockers will be

The result could be that people won't come, after all it costs a fair bit to travel now days, I know it will cost Clive and I £30 in fuel so the JJ's must be paying a lot to just to get there and then to be hit like this do you think they will come again ?

Dosen't really matter to me what is charged on the day I know I will enjoy it but it would be nice if it happened again and judging by the amount of feeling against the set fee I am seeing here I think I am in the minority (opinion wise)

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Opal on May 17, 2008, 02:20:21 AM
Ok first of all the £5 set fee was my idea.

Why?

Because we're a small group, & hiring our gym for 3 hours costs 6 people £5.10 each. It's not the cheapest gym but it's close to most of the IBz and it is a nice facility.

So, I've basically been subsidising the IBz so that we can have these gym meets, and no im not incredibly out of pocket, a couple of pounds at the most across all the sessions we've had thus far, but nonetheless it has required a subsidy.

The IBz agreed that, should our numbers increase, we would keep the amount that we usually have to pay the same, and any extra revenue earned from the gyms would go towards actively promoting the sport (through local promotion of IBz, etc).

Of course, the members of any other groups have not made the same agreements/commitments that we have to having the IBz gym. However if we hadn't done so we wouldn't have it and therefore wouldn't have a venue for this meet. That should be appreciated.

On the other side of the coin, why should you subsidise or otherwise help give revenue to a group that you do not belong to? Not for any other reasons than A). you want to use their facility or B). you agree with what the revenue is going to be used for (i.e. promotion of an otherwise niche sport, although part of me thinks that most participants actually prefer it that way).

Now, I'm open to lowering the charge based upon more attendees. Great, because I have to pay less myself too.

It will be a flat rate of £2. If 16 or more people turn up we've covered costs. If not then it looks like I'm subsidising again. At no time has it ever been anyone's intention to fleece anyone else; the demanding tone taken by some of the posters was neither necessary nor appreciated.
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 17, 2008, 07:49:15 AM
 :banana:  in regards to what you have said opel i never wanted to be part of the funding account thing that was set by lets say the moderators of the group.... its a lot of profit made if all payed the 5bills so i think all people are saying is, its done diffrently in the ibz as at there gym meets they split the hole cost of the gym equaly and fairly with no set price its worked out on how many turn out that way there is no subsadising needed by any one person.....

that said dont think i can make it as i had a car accident yesterday but i will keep you guys posted and let you all know....
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on May 17, 2008, 10:24:42 AM
To be honest, I was always a little concerned about the larger scale funding of the IBz, and always took a back stand on it. But I do want to add that Opal does an amazing job every week, and much to my dismay, has to pay FAR too much out of his own pocket. I still think everyone should pay their cut of the gym and no way should Opal pay for any of it himself. I threw the whole 'all attendees are to pay £5' thing merely to judge the reactions of people, and I knew these problem would occur which is why I was always concerned about the set fee's. I do say now however, that everyone is to pay their percentage of the cost of the gym, and Opal shall not be paying for any of it out of his own pocket (something I have always hating him doing). We (the moderators) shall re-address this issue as every meet is likely that someone from outside the IBz will attend and I always have very much an all or nothing stance.

Hope that cleared things up for everyone. Also, a little more faith from our own existing members would be nice, considering we was going to outline our plans to you all this weekend.

-Carma
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Charlie B on May 17, 2008, 11:21:41 AM
As someone from outside the group looking in could i make a few observations

In most other sports club members pay an annual or monthly subscription and in most cases then pay for the facility when used.

A number of you talk about "profit" as a very dirty word. However when the event makes a "loss" you allow someone else to pay the bill.

Most events (and clubs) to run long term need to make more money than the costs. This allows the development of a contingency fund which ensures no one is out of pocket if numbers are low for a few weeks. Also a contingency fund can be used to provide money to buy extra equipment, and used when making funding bids.

If you are going to bid for money via Awards4All or Sports match you must have money in the bank to support your ideas.

Finally a not for profit organisation can and should make money on what it does, the only difference is that the "profit" is re-invested in what the organisation does, not given as a dividend to share holders.

Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Wally247 on May 17, 2008, 11:26:58 AM
Smile Carma/Opal  ;D ;D ;D

i didnt realise, Opal, that you were out of pocket on these gym meets.... that shouldnt be happening....  :-\

Carma your doing a great job at organising the IBz keep up the good work...  :biggrin: seeing as without you probs nothing would happen im glad you do it


I cant wait to here the oultines of the plans this tomorow... also good point Charlie B

ps. sorry if i sounded a bit p**sy in some other posts... exam stress.

pps looking forward to seeing you all on sunday

 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on May 17, 2008, 11:45:20 AM
Thank you all for understanding this, I guess we are all still getting to grips with problems and peoples situations. We never do anything for ourselves, and still are a not-for-profit organisation. Seeing as ALL profit goes back into the group, I wouldn't have it ANY OTHER way. All the organisers have put it money and funding from their own pockets without ever expecting it back, but I feel we don't need to anymore. We will discuss our ideas with the IBz tomorrow, seeing as most of you will be there.

Can't wait, and a special thank you to the IBz for their patients and understanding on the situation. And of course to the other groups.

-Carma (The Bocking Rocker)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Spud on May 17, 2008, 11:47:46 AM
Well said Charlie B,
As far as I know the IBs are trying to raise money for things for the IBs. I think transport is one of the things on the list. I would be happy at this beiing they way things run. £5 is a small price to pay and you will see the benifits in the future... I go to a circus thing on wed. You pay a couple of quid every week and it is usally an hour. If enough people come to cover the cost of more time there then thats what they do. Any other spare cash goes in a fund which pays for the quiet weeks and also to pay for things that the users want. I love how this works and I dont like seeing people pocketing my money.

Opal. You really shouldnt be paying for things out of your pocket its unfair. And look at it from this way. If you keep allowing this to happen it will be more of a struggle to get the IBs standing on there own feet.

However hard it is you need to get things working right from the start or it gets harder in the long run. Each person should be paying their fair share of the cost and shouldnt mind either. It will benifit you all in long run and sooner you are standing on your own feet the sooner the sport can develop and equipment and things will be better for you.

The idea needs to be self sufficiant and although the meets are good fun...I hope you guys see where I am coming from. I cant expalin well but our old flying club tresurer paid insurance out of his own pocket and it caused us big problems after. We thought we were doing well but really we wernt and after. It was a struggle. Now we make a small amount of profit and have had parachutes repaired and all sorts and we had fun raising money on the way. Things like having BBQs at £3 a head raised a small amount every time.

I hope I dont sound like an idiot.

 :spudT:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: webmaster on May 17, 2008, 12:53:12 PM
There’s a lot of points raised here but this is the way I see it...

Firstly if the Invicta’s are raising funds for various ventures and all the IBz are happy to pay a little extra to fund these projects then fair enough, I think it’s a great way to raise the little extra to cover for the times where funds are short and things need doing etc...

I know of some of the plans that the IB’z are hoping to go ahead with, and in the long run is going to help the IBz as a whole group and set the foundations for you to become stronger, I’ve heard no plans from any of the IBz which are solely for the benefit of one or two people, all the plans are for you all.

The biggest problem I see with the group is actually something that would go away with a little communication. You are all adults, and if you are having discussions then why not involve all your members, sound out ideas when you are together in person or all together in a chat room or msn convo when all members can participate, and in this sort of situation when it’s just the IBz you should all speak freely, raise your concerns, disagree, maybe even agree on a few things ;)  Every group has arguments & disagreements but they are not carried out on the forums for all to hear, I’ve seen more of this from the IBz than any other group and it does you guys no good at all. If you have a problem with any member within the group or you don’t like what’s said a pm or email or even a phone call in my opinion is better than undermining each other publically.

With regards to this gym meet, let’s face it, it’s a special one. A lot of people are making the effort to come a long long way, and it’s not going to happen often. I personally think if you guys are inviting a group along then splitting the cost is acceptable but if it was my group I wouldn’t charge them at all, considering the time and effort they are already putting in to come along. When you first suggested the sum of a fiver each Carma, and when Lee replied with the following:
erm for 3 hours and 15 people it’s not gonna cost £5 if we split it 15 ways it’s not gonna be that much..
I honestly thought it was just a few wires crossed and it would be split equally!

If other groups were joining in all the time and agree to put in a little extra then fair enough but imo it shouldn’t be made mandatory, as like Jason said it would just put people off coming to your gym when other gyms are cheaper.
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Opal on May 17, 2008, 04:01:45 PM
Well there are a number of points that have been bought up here, and I might be so bold as to say that some of our "Communication" problems have stemmed from personal disputes within the group. This does have to stop, especially in public forums. Charlie B hit the nail on the head with his post, and everyone in every group who are trying to actively take things forwards should heed what he has had to say.

Of course we're a not for profit group. I've been on to a subtle loser from the start, but that's not what it's all about. But as has been stated before, without a little profit, we aren't going to be able to invest in things to make the sport bigger and better (Gym equipment and advertising, etc), and this is all we're trying to do for the benefit of everyone.

I think that, other groups coming to our gym meets is a beneficial step forward in itself, which is why I was so willing to drop the price (i.e. their payment is in time and petrol to come along, and it makes our numbers look bigger automatically). So perhaps a two tier system whereby our visitors pay £2 and standard members pay the standard rate (£5, as after all, it's the standard members that will benefit more often from gym equipment, etc). When the numbers increase, the price decreases to £1 for visitors just like EBs.

I haven't had a problem with the subsidy. Like I said before, we wouldn't have the gym if not, and it's only been pennies, so no big deal. I will still pay the usual rate (£5) so that we do generate some revenue for the things we are trying to achieve (without alienating anyone).
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 17, 2008, 05:49:43 PM
 :banana: i just wonna say cant wait i am coming now as my poorly car should make it and i cant wait letrs didcuss this more on the day as my head hurts trying to read all the losg posts i have a short attention span afterall..... :thumbs: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Paul-Self on May 17, 2008, 06:31:00 PM
can i ask what equipment the gym has carl says im coming 2 lol
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Trixter on May 17, 2008, 07:29:07 PM
i have one question what does your group need a fund for exactly surely we all promote the sport just by bocking what exactly do you need to pay out for surly your not advertising as the companys do that one there own and we do it by recomending sites and places to buy from, i cant see what reason a group would need to fund there group and i can easyily say that it is the first time i have heard of a group need a bank account and fund unless they have been doing paid event work would like to know why so maybe i can cause a big row between the EAs with the same reason
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: carlgreen on May 17, 2008, 08:36:16 PM
yh what equipment is there as i dnt wanna be flipping all the time i want stuff to vault jump over jump onto and stuff liek that
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jelly on May 17, 2008, 08:45:46 PM
Hey, im definitely coming down tomorrow. Im getting off gillingham station, where abouts is the gym from there? jelly x
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 17, 2008, 08:50:52 PM
just down the high street

and sorry i dont know what we can use to jump over etc, opal is the best person to aswer that.
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: sprog on May 17, 2008, 08:53:12 PM
Hey, im definitely coming down tomorrow. Im getting off gillingham station, where abouts is the gym from there? jelly x
YAY JELLY!
Haven't seen you since CB :(
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jelly on May 17, 2008, 09:23:34 PM
Are you coming too ash?? Yay!!! Has anyone got a number i can call? just in case i get lost! jelly x
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Dark Knight on May 17, 2008, 09:25:45 PM
Are you coming too ash?? Yay!!! Has anyone got a number i can call? just in case i get lost! jelly x
You can have my number !? I'm not going but you can still have my number  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Joe Legg on May 17, 2008, 09:43:43 PM
Are you coming too ash?? Yay!!! Has anyone got a number i can call? just in case i get lost! jelly x

yeah we just found out the jj mobil will be passing sprogs place of stay and can pick him
 up on the way.

so im getting everything ready for tomorrow as ill be leaving my houese about 7/7.30am. and the people in the jj mobil are

rancher (driver)
colin (navagator)
'q' (umm postman)
sprog (bock first aid)

and we should hit the gym about 12/12.30 hopfully.
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on May 17, 2008, 10:19:20 PM
Well done Opal for sorting the Gym and I can understand now why you set the £5 fee for your regular meets and the drop for special meets is a good idea but I think if you extended it to your own members you would still cover your costs this time as it seems like a lot of people are coming   :thumbs:

When I go to anything like this I am more than happy to pay the fee as I then know it will be available next time

May we have many more meets with the Invicta Bockerz  :banana: :banana: :thumbs:

See you all tomorrow  :banana:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Paul-Self on May 17, 2008, 10:31:31 PM
awesome look forward to seeing you all again / meeting some of ya 
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Wally247 on May 17, 2008, 10:53:26 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHH the rents are being a tad anoying and imprisoning me

so i cant come to the first half of hte meet but will be at the gym at 4

looking forward tomeeting you all

 :biggrin:  :biggrin:  :biggrin:

Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 18, 2008, 07:31:40 AM
 :banana:  hey guys just to say not long now till gym meetcant wait to meet you all. and jelly iv pm'd you my number give me a txt about what time your train is and ill swing by and pick you up.. asfor every one else safe journey and watch out for dutch VOLVO's LOL
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: tundraH on May 18, 2008, 07:47:45 AM
I'm just leaving now.  See you all in sunny, it had better be sunny, Kent.  :P
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 18, 2008, 09:03:04 AM
 :banana: woop it aint to bad at the mo.....
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: sidnell1990 on May 18, 2008, 09:32:57 AM
IS ANYONE COMING VIA ESSEX.......?!?!?!?!
I REALLY WANNA GO!!!!
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on May 18, 2008, 10:25:08 AM
YEY! I cannot wait! What an amazing turn out, and a massive thank you ALL for coming from so far!!!

I will brief you all as to the information you asked once we are all at the meet :). And I very much agree with Opal, his idea, is a good one. As well as Spuds, we may well steal that one ;)

Thanks guys

-Carma
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: sprog on May 18, 2008, 12:24:24 PM
Apologies from me!
I have far too much uni work to do and also discovered this morning my bocks are missing 2 bolts. Had to scout the carpark to find them, got them in the end... Just as well I didn't come as may have been bouncing on dogey bocks! :o
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Opal on May 18, 2008, 08:05:56 PM
A very big thanks to EVERYONE who could make it! It was a huge success and lots of fun was had by all!

Congrats to TOK who managed to land his flips, and more than once so it does count!! No doubt we'll be seeing the video proof very soon!

We also had lots of spectators this time around, one of whom had a go and could walk straight away! A new IBz member in the making methinks  ;D

Cheers everyone! Photo's to follow!
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 18, 2008, 08:31:55 PM
yea i agree a big tanks to the jj and to the ea's that came down, it was loads of fun and hope to do it again

and i will have a small bit of the vid up tonight
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: KentLee on May 18, 2008, 08:45:04 PM
 :banana: OMG it was an amazing day even tho i did manage to tear my ligaments in my leg.

1) A massive thank you to all that are not invicts bockers for coming it was an amazing day and it was great meeting and tundra lived up to his name and managed to snap his spring lol..

2)well done tok for landing your flips VERY IMPRESSED.....

3) i cant wait till there is another meet...

4) thank you jason for letting me use your bockes there amazing springs and calf cuffs..

5) well done clive for starting to split kick. i knew you had it in you...

ill upload photos soon need to sort comp out first....
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Paul-Self on May 18, 2008, 08:56:47 PM
was awesome cheers to everyone for making a fantastic day was awesome to meet some of you cant wait for it to happen again and fronts are happening outside this week!

Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: luke doyle on May 18, 2008, 09:16:11 PM
was awesome cheers to everyone for making a fantastic day was awesome to meet some of you cant wait for it to happen again and fronts are happening outside this week!



yer my frist time going it was kool
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 18, 2008, 09:28:19 PM
here is the soul flip that wasnt

http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1050 (http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1050)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on May 18, 2008, 09:55:04 PM
Great day Folks

Clive and I had so much fun we got lost twice due to talking about it on the way home (once only 6 miles from home  :haha:)

Thanks to all that made it happen and to so many of you (to many to mention) for pushing to my limits me and even trying to catch me when I fell (you know who you are  :biggrin:)

Hope your not to bruised Rancher I didn't see it I only heard it live but just seen the vid I think you left a dent in the floor  :biggrin:

So many really good bockers and good friends in one place reminded me of CB last year  :banana: :banana:
I'm really looking forward to the pics should be some good ones  :thumbs:

Thanks again

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Bbmthbloke on May 18, 2008, 10:25:58 PM
Good day folks

Lots of fun stuff to play with --me and Jason were kids opening the toy box when we went into the store room.

Hope everyone gets over their pains ( I think  a 1/3rd of us left with aches and pains of one tpye or another), especially Jelly with her hip.

I drove Joe back to Bournemouth but he was OK to drive the last 30 miles to his place.

He certainly perked up a lil towards the end of the journey and he got into a 'phone conversation about minkeys and massages :rolleyes:

I think these multi group meets every now and again look like being a regular feature.

Hope to see a load of you in 2 weeks in London
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: carlgreen on May 18, 2008, 10:32:07 PM
2 weeks i london??   ???

when was this decided i wanna c u all agen soon
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Wally247 on May 18, 2008, 10:33:42 PM
yh wats happening in london????

Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Bbmthbloke on May 18, 2008, 10:47:03 PM
d'oh   'walk for life' --check the button just above the shout box.  10Km charity walk/bock

Jelly even features on the promo poster for the event which is plastered over the tube ;D

Its hard work but great fun   make it if you can

There is a thread for it on here
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Carma on May 19, 2008, 04:38:59 PM
I just want to say, the funding projects were outlined to all Invicta BockerZ present yesterday as well as a few others. If anyone wasn't there who wants to know where the funding is going, please do not hessitate to contact me.

We will keep you all upto date with the progress once we have more definate plans

-Carma (The Bocking Rocker)
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Charlie B on May 19, 2008, 05:12:21 PM
One last bit of advice for all of those wishing to run clubs correctly

http://www.runningsports.org/

use either the workbooks tab or club problem solving tool

You can also see where workshops are being run near to you
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on May 19, 2008, 10:23:38 PM
Blummin excelent meet guys! Was great to have so many people down, meet some people I havent seen in ages, meet the guys i've spoke to on here before, and almost get "too close for comfort" with TundraH! haha

Big thanks to Rancher and Q for helping me out get my flips down! And again thanks to Rancher for lettin me try his skips out!

TundraH lived up to his name and broke a skip spring too!

Shame about the few injuries that occoured, which has opened our eyes at what to do next time around!

Hope to meet you all again real soon!
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: tundraH on May 20, 2008, 06:38:12 AM
Thank you to the IBz for putting up with us Southerners, it was a wicked meet.

and almost get "too close for comfort" with TundraH! haha
It would have been a beautiful moment for the both of us. ;)

Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on May 20, 2008, 09:25:07 PM
I still can't forget the "your other left moment" on the stand jump tundraH now that would have been funny if we had both gone the wrong way  :haha:

Glad you know your left from right even if I don't  :thumbs:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Spud on May 20, 2008, 09:41:52 PM
I still can't forget the "your other left moment" on the stand jump tundraH now that would have been funny if we had both gone the wrong way  :haha:

Glad you know your left from right even if I don't  :thumbs:

Jason  :Hoofies2:

LOL I do that!! Was a regular thing from my gliding instructor...Now i choose where I go!! Even if it is in a hedge  :haha: (wish I was joking but thats what happened last week! I hurt it too  :rolleyes: )
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on May 20, 2008, 10:09:57 PM
I think the best one I did all day was try to jump up steps backwards

The result I headbutted tundraH in the foot and have now got a bruise the size of Wales on my A**

I must admit the pole dancing incident came a close second (That was tundraH's fault  :biggrin:)

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Tok on May 21, 2008, 02:50:51 PM
Damn it i missed that Jason! lol

Any new =s of any pics or vids from the meet?
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on May 21, 2008, 08:41:01 PM
I'd do it again for you Tok but it hurt a tad (minor groin strain  :biggrin:)

I was trying to do the tundraH standing on the rail bit and slipped thus rotating round the lamp post bocks upwards  :haha:

And I'll second the call for pics there were a lot of cameras going and I'm desperate to see myself  :haha:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: toddy on May 21, 2008, 09:56:20 PM
when i get the time i will go through the 3+ hours of film i have got
Title: Re: 3rd IBz Gym Session - Gillingham - Sunday 18th May
Post by: Jason on May 22, 2008, 08:49:42 PM
Looking forward to it Toddy  :thumbs:

Jason  :Hoofies2: