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Title: drinks holder
Post by: lynch on April 24, 2009, 09:18:37 PM: right its getting hotter and its easy to get sun stroke if we dont drink
i was just wondering how people carry around drinks when bocking and if any one has made a drink holder to go on their stilts
as im thinking of doing on but wanted to see what was about first
so lets see what you go :P
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: sprog on April 24, 2009, 09:55:16 PM: Q made one a while ago, I can't remember if I have any photos of it. It was just a bike drinks rack attached to his kneebar, but it worked really well.
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Jason on April 24, 2009, 09:58:44 PM: Just don't fill it with anything fizzy :Claugh:

Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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Post by: toddy on April 24, 2009, 10:14:30 PM: all i would say is hydrapack

much easer and can hold up to 3l at a time
and can be nice and tight aginst your back to dont bounce around
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Schoie on April 24, 2009, 11:39:26 PM: Just get a camel back!
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Brendan (NeoNinja) on April 25, 2009, 12:27:57 AM: Quote from: sprog on April 24, 2009, 09:55:16 PM
Q made one a while ago, I can't remember if I have any photos of it. It was just a bike drinks rack attached to his kneebar, but it worked really well.

That's ingenious! I want one on each bock to for even weight distribution...
...and a long crazy straw. It shall be my hydrophilic version of the beer hat. ^_^
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Post by: darfgarf on April 25, 2009, 07:11:57 AM: how about a hand? it's really not that hard during generl trundling around, and if you stop to do a it of a showy bounce in one area, just put it down on a statue or something

bike holder on the vertical suppport would work better then on kneebar?
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Brendan (NeoNinja) on April 25, 2009, 11:13:33 AM: I assumed it was on a vertical part of the knee bar, not the curved bit that actually 'supports' your knee. But yes, it would work better on the vertical support.

Some people... myself included, really like the idea of having everything you need on your person, and not having to stop to remove bags or risk having things stolen while you're bocking. Bock mounted drinks holders and a bumbag would be perfect for me! I'm glad this topic came up. =)
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Trinitrophenol on April 29, 2009, 07:21:39 AM: Check out http://www.camelbak.com/index.cfm (http://www.camelbak.com/index.cfm) ! I just saw one interesting item from there.. Racebak 2.1 (Under Hydration Packs -> Wearable Hydration)

Wearable "Airbag" cum hydration system? :Claugh:

Searched some websites for more info

http://www.singletrackworld.com/2009/01/introducing-the-racebak-the-camelbak-you-wear/ (http://www.singletrackworld.com/2009/01/introducing-the-racebak-the-camelbak-you-wear/)

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Camelbak_RaceBak_21_Wearable_Hydration_Pack/5360041706/ (http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Camelbak_RaceBak_21_Wearable_Hydration_Pack/5360041706/)
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Wally247 on June 02, 2009, 02:30:00 PM: I have tried all differnt types of hydration bladder and as far as i can tell they all have one feature in common...

THEIR ABILITY TO LEAK WATTER ALL DOWN YOUR BACK!!!!!!

lol i have given up on them and an now goint to experiment with attachable drinks holders
Do people think one or two? as surly one would affect wait distribution??? let me know... ta

Btw sorry if this is all moving i cant seem to stop it!
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Spud on June 02, 2009, 02:42:38 PM: Code: [Select]
[move][color=red][size=20pt]THEIR ABILITY TO LEAK WATTER ALL DOWN YOUR BACK!!!!!![/size][/color]move]You see the last move tag? It is incomplete and not even a closing tag so anything after the first one moved and that showed up as text. Needed to look like the other ones next to it ;)

I have seen a pic of a drink holder on the knee bar. I would just worry about the bottle flying out when doing tricks. But I wouldn't use a camelpack either. would be more likely to tho. I got one about and it hasn't leaked. But in all fairness I have only used it on my bike when I had to go everywhere on it.

:spudT:
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Wally247 on June 02, 2009, 05:32:41 PM: Cheers Spud :Csmile:
i used mine for mountainearing expeditons and speed hikes ect... lastime i ended up with a soaking bag, back and it was a night nav... damn irritating lol
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Post by: Spud on June 02, 2009, 05:43:40 PM: I think the bag mine goes in is waterproof on the inside :D
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Post by: Wally247 on June 02, 2009, 05:53:04 PM: That would help... i now just use waterbottles/canttens
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Post by: Bbmthbloke on June 02, 2009, 06:16:29 PM: Yep I just about had the bike bottle cage sussed but then flew to Spain with it attached to the bock...got bent about abit and not put back.

Doing walk 4 life on sunday and normally there is a freeby bt of water at start in middle and at end and last year another freebee just after start. The trick guys, is actually to remember to drink and slowly but continuously as any1 who saw 'rancher' do a back flip at the end of the day last year will attest --he was well dehydrated.

At mo I just carry a 1l bt of water bigger is a pain to hold smaller is not enuff.
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Spud on June 02, 2009, 06:25:28 PM: At EA meets we tend to make camp by the moat and dump out stuff there (and I look after it while people eat :P) but anyhoo..I usually buy a big bottle of water and limeade at the beginning of the day for everybody to share. If there is a drink for people to drink then they will have some in situations when they wouldn't bother going to buy one.
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Dark Knight on June 02, 2009, 06:41:37 PM: I started a topic of this a couple of years ago on the same topic.

http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=948.0

I do own a Camel backpack but I think I have used it once ! I really can't see the need to carry water with me ! It's not that we live in the middle of nowhere but some of us feel like that :Ctwitcy:

I have a drink before I go bocking and then after I've finished. While I'm bocking a I want a drink I just look for a shop and buy one, some shop may not let you in but you can always ask at the doorway for help. :Cyes:
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: lynch on June 02, 2009, 06:59:05 PM: dk i have a Camel backpack but i wanted to knwo if any one attached it to teh stilt
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Bbmthbloke on June 02, 2009, 09:09:03 PM: here here dk if i was boking the great silk route id go equiped.

otherwise, i use tesco express :Csmile:
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Post by: Donkey Kong on June 02, 2009, 09:38:29 PM: camel backpacks are the best!
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Post by: Tracker on June 14, 2009, 04:24:07 PM: you could get one of these http://www.primelineintl.com/spring.htm (http://www.primelineintl.com/spring.htm)
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: lilspeedsk8ter on August 01, 2009, 06:36:14 AM: I think I finally found a way to gain "Free Extra Weight" as I only weigh around 97 pounds put 2 gallons of water one on each leg and between the water and the stilt itself I gain 16 pounds per leg, total of 32 pounds, WHOA only problem is I can not exceed the Raptor Max of say 132-156 pounds/50-70KG though or would it hurt me any doing this?
I even thought about filling my kneebar tubes with Sand/concrete/rocks maybe, lol but know it would leak out sooner or later?
I now have the Phat Cuff so to fill a bar with sand etc would not work well I figure?
I already have strong legs because of my Inline (Rollerblading) Speed Skating int he past?
Any other ideas other than "EAT", lol :Cbiggrin:
LKP
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Trixter on August 01, 2009, 02:17:20 PM: erm dont use sand concrette etc that would just be stupid sooner or later you would need to take them off or do sumin with the bars and it could cause you problems

Only thing to do other then adding weight would be to learn to bounce proply im not saying you cant now but if you put your bounce thru your heels when you do it you will bounce a hell of alot better

i dont understand Pounds to Killograms so cant give any good ideas if you convert to KG would probly get more advise from people dude
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: sprog on August 01, 2009, 03:16:57 PM: According to google
97 pounds = 43.9984599 kilograms

I'm not sure why you've posted this under "drinks holder", Larry, but I wouldn't have thought water would work too well as it's going to slosh around in the container a bit, as there will always be a small amount of air in there. As far as I've seen you don't have "strong legs", your only claim to fame is you've broken a pair of skyrunners, which just about everybody can do.

Before thinking about increasing your weight you really need to think about improving your technique for jumping, as it is still very poor. You do not use your arms at all, and barely seem to put any power into the downwards movement. You really need to push down hard with your heels, bending your knees slightly.

I'd advise you follow this:
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Fysh on August 01, 2009, 04:55:47 PM: The Camel thingamy-bobs are the best, in my opinion :)
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Trixter on August 01, 2009, 05:34:07 PM: or you all stop bein stupid get a bottle of sumin carry it while ur just walkin put it down on a wall when you wanna bounce around no1 wants to steal a bottle of drink from you lol
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: lilspeedsk8ter on August 02, 2009, 01:41:07 AM: Quote from: sprog on August 01, 2009, 03:16:57 PM
According to google
97 pounds = 43.9984599 kilograms

I'm not sure why you've posted this under "drinks holder", Larry, but I wouldn't have thought water would work too well as it's going to slosh around in the container a bit, as there will always be a small amount of air in there. As far as I've seen you don't have "strong legs", your only claim to fame is you've broken a pair of skyrunners, which just about everybody can do.

Before thinking about increasing your weight you really need to think about improving your technique for jumping, as it is still very poor. You do not use your arms at all, and barely seem to put any power into the downwards movement. You really need to push down hard with your heels, bending your knees slightly.

I'd advise you follow this:

I need to post some new video of my progress as I have improved a lot since my Washington DC trip and the reason I posted these ideas under the water drink bottle area was because water or any other liquid has a good bit of weight to it per gallon, if I remember right it is around 1 gallon=8 pounds of weight, other than the idea of when we bounce it will have air in it and move around as long as you have it on your stilts we have to consider the added weight to out legs and we must consider our weight plus the stilts and the other add on weight in my example would be 2 gallons so we add 16 pounds for the stilts and the 16 pounds for the 2 gallons of water so I really meant to ask about the stilt springs weight being exceeded.

Now if I wanted to add say 2 or so pounds to each leg then the kneebar sounds like a good place to use it is hollow and can be filled with sand water concrete etc, just a "what if I tried this idea" I had this morning, lol.

Near the end of this video of us in DC on June the 27/28th you can see me on the far right hand side jumping better that I did in my other video that was done in front of my house, still yet I need to get more downward force to gain more height I do agree.
Thanks for the help there too guys...
We all do an outdoor run between trees as we all were doing a slalom and it is on the video around 3:33 up to 3:38 there is a break in the line and this is where I am I am the first person seen right after the break in the line, then we jump between us at the capital building jumping around and I am on the far right hand side it is easy to spot me as I am a little shorter than everyone else and not getting as high on my jumps as ever one else is.
On the end of the video we are all shown standing as a group and I am the second to last in the group on the right hand side.
Thanks for any pointers ahead of time anyone can provide me here,
LKP
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Spud on August 03, 2009, 09:35:17 AM: I think the very first thing you need to do if you want to start getting good height is realise that the problem is not your weight, not your height but it is your technique. The sooner this happens the sooner you can start seriously working on your technique. I don't mean to be harsh but it is honestly the only way it will happen.

You weigh 44kg, raptors are rated 50-70kg. You may say that you are much too light for these springs but 7's are actually pretty soft compared to other springs in that kind of category. For example a set of raptors are nothing like a set of M70 projump/fl springs. They are much closer to M60s. T's are like M80's.

So...if we were talking PJs with your 7's you would be 16kg over. Now that really isn't an unacceptable amount. It's actually really normal especially for people of your weight. People always ask if they should go for kids or adults and its always worth them getting a bit above the 10kg thing to get adults. All of these people seem to do fine, ok, it may take a little more work but they do ok.

My advise to you would be to use one set of bocks, one set of springs only for a little while. The raptors would be fine. Just stick to one pair. That way you can get used to them and stuff like that. I would then look at a load of videos and see what people are doing with their arms and how they are jumping and try and copy what they are doing. Learn what good technique looks like. Then go out and practice, take a phone or camera out and film what you are doing. Then look back and see what you are doing differently compared to others with good technique and tweak it. Jumping actually takes quite a lot of effort. With the springs being 16kg over you will need to put some force into them. You can do it on your own without any mods but it will take a bit of energy initially. If you are prepared for that then you will be ok.

I hope this helps.

:spudT:
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: GingerJumper on December 29, 2011, 02:56:14 PM: Ya not trying to be a d**k but y not just get a camleback? here i know they r in the US but i dont know bout if you live outside of the US
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: gazzat5 on January 03, 2012, 10:58:11 AM: I go with a 2l camelback and berhghaus freeflow 25 bag that i bought a few years back, even If i do tend to take it off and hang it on street furniture such as street signs lol.

The bag has a special compartment for the camelback.
The camelback has a lifetime warranty, so keep the receipt. There's also several accesories for it which will help prevent it dripping (e.g. when i bumped into the bite valve it would leak, so i got a 'hydrolock' tap (http://www.camelbak.com/Sports-Recreation/Accessories/2010-Ergo-Hydrolock.aspx). I reckon a bite valve cover (http://www.camelbak.com/Sports-Recreation/Accessories/Big-Bite-Valve-Cover.aspx) would do the job just as well though. I did used to have a neoprene cover for my platypus bladder which would have been perfect but i can't find anywhere that still sells them :(

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c5FLHq9LpHc/TdzhOLFthsI/AAAAAAAAApU/vPkc98TxDuY/s1600/freeflow.jpg)
That strap actually has a couple of straps to hold the pipe btw.

My drinking setup (http://mahersoutdoor.blogspot.com/2011/05/berghaus-freeflow-25-sale.html)
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: GingerJumper on January 03, 2012, 05:36:18 PM: Quote from: Trixter on August 01, 2009, 05:34:07 PM
or you all stop bein stupid get a bottle of sumin carry it while ur just walkin put it down on a wall when you wanna bounce around no1 wants to steal a bottle of drink from you lol
although i agree wat about hobos?
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Jason on January 03, 2012, 08:31:31 PM: I love old posts when they get dragged up again :Cbiggrin:

I tried a camelback and found that every time I bounced the Bl**dy thing kept hitting me in the back of the neck :Claugh:

My method is to have regular breaks sitting in the local hostelry with a pint of my favorite brew (This is a Skyhigh tecnique that Nero taught me)

It massively improves your bocking through the day and falling becomes almost totally painless (again ask Nero if you don't believe me)

It also makes attempting your first flips on firm grass or concrete seem like a good idea :Claugh:

And the extra energy you get from the alcohol enables you to bock from early morning until late into the night or the next morning if Becky dosen't stop you bouncing in the tent while singing at 3 am :Cbiggrin:

Jason :Hoofies2: :Claugh:

Ps please don't try this at home children :Claugh:
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Post by: Birt on January 03, 2012, 09:17:09 PM: but that camelback will protect you back a little while trying that first flip Jason ;-)
Title: Re: drinks holder
Post by: Jason on January 03, 2012, 09:27:55 PM: Yep it did protect me a bit :Cbiggrin:

I forgot to do the waist strap up and it protected the front of my head as it flipped over in front of me as I landed
Admitedly I wouldn't have needed the protection if I hadn't tripped over due to Camelback Blindness :Claugh:

Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK: