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WHAT'S HAPPENING NEAR YOU => Major Bocking Events => Capital Bocking => Topic started by: Locky on September 03, 2009, 09:29:06 PM
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11 o'clock, tomorrow, down the bay :)
This post is based on my own opinion and assumptions so please respect that.
I would like CB 2010 to be in cardiff next year on the basis that it changes from previous years.
I am more than willing to put in the leg work but this is what I want:
1. Still have the oval basin (location for CB 08) but for a freestyle, group meet hangout.
2. Hire either Cardiff indoor arena or the millenium stadium to make an indoor bocking centre, including a public workshop area where members of the public can come and try bocking for free. There would also be a market area where stilt companies can have a stall and also those members who have anything to sell/swap etc.
The bocking area will be designed by us to the best possible effect we can. Gym equipment, foam pits, blocks of all kinds and sizes. You get the picture.
3. Camping at Cardiff Campsite, restricted to 100 people (not 100 tents), subject to agreement with the campsite management.
4. Most of us stay at nearby hotels, within walking distance of the bay. This would allow a night bocking session and allow us to chill out and have a drink etc for those who wish.
I know this seems impossibly ambitions and maybe it is but if we dont aim high, we wont get any results. If we dont change the way CB is run then it will probably dwindle each year as more bockers will chose to go to the bigger events. For that to happen we need money and lots of it.
I am in talks with one company that are interested in backing us and have experience of something very similar already. They also have excellent marketing links to get some serious media coverage.
There is also this option (http://www.millenniumstadium.com/community/index.php) which we could apply for, though this could lead to complications.
I would also like to see the whole event sponsored by several companies. Some would be big national brands and some would be smaller.
With the exception of travelling and camping/hotel (which deals could be made) I do not want the event costs to be passed on to the bockers attending.
I would ask all bockers attending be willing to volunteer 30 mins of their time over the 2 days to staff the public workshop. This will be done in a logical manor, with those most experienced with bocking and workshops being asked first.
I do not want this thread to turn into a 20 page ramble about crap. For that reason, on the new Capital Bocking website - www.capitalbocking.co.uk I am going to open up a public chatroom for next Monday night at 8pm where everyone can come and have their say. A summary of the chat can be posted up later.
If anyone has any valid points to make, please save them for the chat session or afterwards as we'll have a much clearer picture on what we want to happen then.
I am well aware that some of these goals are a far stretch but please do not dismiss them out of the water. If we dont take CB up to the next level then I dont see much point in continuing with it at all.
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Nice early start locky hope it works well probly will miss most of the chat due to work (get home around 9) but will catch up on the notes etc n pass on ne thoughts of what i read if i miss the whole topic much love xxxx
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Sounds awesome!
I definitely agree that Capital Bocking needs to take the next step now, its just got such a potential as an event. With sponsorship i think hiring an indoor area is a brilliant idea, and such a backup incase one of the days gets rained off.
If you need a hand with any of the organisation stuff Matt just let me know.
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Sounds awesome!
I definitely agree that Capital Bocking needs to take the next step now, its just got such a potential as an event. With sponsorship i think hiring an indoor area is a brilliant idea, and such a backup incase one of the days gets rained off.
If you need a hand with any of the organisation stuff Matt just let me know.
:approve: - What Rich said :)
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As always... I'm in
Locky :Csmile:
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Count me in :D
Need any help just shout.
DC
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Where do I sign up :Cbiggrin:
Seriously though Locky well done it would be nice to have good camping and I like the idea of an indoor bit so Rock On
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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Locky your just win :)
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Count me in on this one
I so want to come to capital bocking now :Csmile:
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I <3 Locky =]
And if you need me you know where i am :D
(just south WOMAN and ill come running :P)
Love
xxxxxx
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Well soz I cant make the chat room as im off on a course. However, im not sure it is the best forum ( by that mean mode of communication), sorry. Id also I suggest it is rather quick. With no or little time for others to research and prepair different suggestions and venues or even questions. Locky you may not want this thread to ramble on and on. But there is no reason why it shouldnt. Some may prefer this way of expressing themselves and this gives a permanent record to go back to.
As for changing the way the event is run. There is something to be said for it being put together by popular debate, it means it really belongs to everyone of us. I think building directly on previous efforts, adapting adding on will make the sport more sustainable. With more people willing to take a hand in the organisation and administration of this sport which will ,I would say of more importance than asingle big event. Indeed Id go for CB being mainly for us to have fun and promoting the sport 2nd.
I also like to push the idea that CB shouldnt be seen as a stand alone high point to our year, but the centre of a plateau of events.
As always , I have to confess, my vote would also go for London as the venue. Cant put my hand to my A-Z so i cant give you a suggested route and reasons, but it will always be there as a backup.
As I said Id like to see more larger events staged. with this is mind I have been musing about the May Bank Holidays, particularly the Whitsun ( thats the 2nd one folks) for a Portsmouth event.
Sat Power (basket) ball contest and a treasure hunt round the city and seafront for those not contesting or when not contesting. Eve beach barbi and nite bock
Sun, going by 'the day after' at this years CB there are 2 desires by people. 1 have a real good bock or 2 just laze about. Southsea is ideal for this ( weather permitting d'oh). With the beach and Southsea common and a number of bock spots inbetween. add in an afternoon rounders match ( on stilts) for those that want. Thats the basis, more stuff a possiblity. Nothing ground breaking or terribly special, but it builds on what has gone before. it sets a model for others around the country and is proportionate to the size of this sport.
So basically Id say look to trying to set up 3,4 possibly 5 larger events around the country between say mid April and mid September. Building and expanding on what we already have and are doing, focusing minds locally for national effect.
So sorry for being a decenting voice here.
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i think London or Birmingham or even Manchester would all make good venues as they have a lot of choice or places to hold big events.
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i think London or Birmingham or even Manchester would all make good venues as they have a lot of choice or places to hold big events.
NONONONO leave it there - there was so much arguing along that road about this year, that thats why less people wanted to come originally - its being organised with plenty of advanced notice - lets just be thankful (which i am - i look 4ward to CB 2010)
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lol I did not mean moving it was just as alternatives if any thing fell through.
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CARDIFF FTW!!! Jelly x
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you are all missing locky point he along side with many otheres dont just want capital bocking to be one big meet up
yeah it is that
but making capital bocking a gym meet, a bocking meet and a pro mo as well well make it a even bigger meet at the same time
we should be together on this and not fighting the fact that we want bocking to grow and this will help it grow and also bring sponcers to the sport and maybe making it a full sport like bmx or skate bording
locky if there is anythink i can do to help from my end please let me know
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Sounds awesome and glad someones taking the time to make it into something worthwhile!
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I will take an 8 hour shift (with breaks) of the public workshop if you want.. I am so used to teaching now and I have injuries which mean I shouldn't bock very much. let me know mate... P
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Do not disagree with anything Locky has posted, all makes a very sound argument.
It is important to have the contacts and the infrastructure to make this happen. Locky has both the experience and also the contacts.
If people make suggestions for other areas you must take some time to understand the logistics that are required and who will make it happen.
I have missed two capitals beacuse of annual holiday, for what its worth if it does not clash count me in.
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Just a reminder that this chat will take place tonight at 8pm at www.capitalbocking.co.uk
you wont need to register or log in, just use your forum name or your first name.
This chat is open to everyone and if you cannot make it tonight then we can probably have another one in a few weeks time hopefully with some development progress.
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I'm up for helping organise things, CB this year was great though only about 30-40 of us turned up.
I won't be able to join the chat tonight until about 10pm because I have ATC.
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I'll be in chat from 8.30ish onwards. Gotta go bocking first ;)
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only just remembered the chat, is it still going on? i can't find the room
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Nope, we finished up at about 10ish
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any decisions made?
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I think Matt is going to post a kind of summary of what we decided.
But its definitely in Cardiff! :D
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Lol, thats a start now we just need the other things :p
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I just wanted to let everyone know that I am currently looking at various funding opportunites to get behind this. Most of them require some sort of support from the welsh assembly government, the sports council for wales and even my friends at cardiff council. I have gone about this in a very "straight to the top" sort of way which is the only way I can see things progessing with what I want to to.
Talking to zeb about this aswell and he has suggested we have a UK Championship at CB. I think this is a great idea and would really help get some serious media attention aswell. There is a problem that since we're not even a sport yet, we cant have any official championship taking place. But who cares about official right? I believe the same thing applies to parkour but they seem to have the world freerun championships so I'm really not sure if there is a way to make a competition official.
I also have alot on my plate at the moment in my personal life and at the moment this could still go either way but basically I am not interested in organising another large gathering of people. If my plans cant happen for Cardiff then I cant see me being involved with CB much at all.
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sounds like a hell of a lot of work already gone into it top marks locky. Hope all works out well for you. And that all works for cb.
hmm what events could we get in the uk championships?
Long jump
High jump
Floor (like gymnastics)
Syncro (pairs quads etc)
World record challenges (the records that already exist)
Trials (like trials bike kinda stuff)
Just a few thoughts doubt they'll help much but figured i'd write them down
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I missed this thread!!
Matt - Im in! :) Let me know when you want me to do anything.
To add to Adam's list below - maybe 100m sprint, 400m run
And we could split the high jump into a jumping and a flipping one?
Those and the Long/High jump will be easy to 'score' assuming we go with standard athletics rules
But how would we judge the others?
Liking your plans Locky, sounds more like a full event! :) Lots of hard work, but it should be worth it! :)
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we should have the 3v3 BowerBall competitions aswell, (bocking basketball that is)
have a mini tornemant
DC
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It's Powerball, not BowerBall.
I can now call myself a champ(kinda) at Powerball, being on the winning team twice(both times I have played Powerball with the JJ's so far) :Cbiggrin:
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Didn't mean to wright BowerBall,
I get to play it for children in need, am well excited :p
Like a big child
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How is this progressing? I must confess Ive not wanted to look much of late.
If things going fine then please just ignore this post.
If not, then still if wish ignore or maybe not.
But Im going to set out an idea for a CB meet. Its not big, its not clever, its not original ( indeed its just putting existing ideas together & adding maybe 1 or 2 new twists) but I think it would be a fun event.
Please read and say yay nay, yes but or just walk away :oD
Its in London, Date, well debate a lil but 1 day of the weekend of 14th/15th Aug ID lead with suggesting
1100 Tower Bridge, park next to.
Not as easy to get to as , say, Hyde Park, but peeps will be fresh and awake , which will help. Its a place known to quite a few ( but they dont go there enuff to get bored) who will tell you its an ACE bock spot. So there is lots to do whilst people slowly arrive.
There is also an M&S foodhall just round the corner for , reasonably, affordable and non tourist rip of refreshments.
Later in the day the park becomes very crowded so its best to use it as a 1st base.
1300 Move off for a tour of the city. 1st along the South Bank Embankment. Loads to see and do and be seen. Includes the Sk8 park and the 'big green sofa'. Also means all the really 'active' stuff is done 1st.
Cross Thames at the Jubilee bridge. Then , well what do you want to see? Id suggest Trafalgar Square, Covent Garden, Buckingham Palace but please peeps add in and we can see how much we can do.
Ending up at Hyde Park. Now this is more central and and better servered by tube stations than Tower Bridge. But Id suggest that at the end of the day when we are all tired and want to get home ( or just Have to get home cos parents have said so, or in my case cats have to be fed) this ease of communication is more of a plus than at the start.
Whilst being rather flat , the park is big and open and those that stil have the energy will be very free to bounce about there for the remainder of the day.
OO food? Well Im prepaired to wager there are 1 or 3 ( atleast) take away pizza parlours around the park. Research can be done, menus posted and we can 'phone ahead our orders...and have 'pizza in the park'
As I say not big not clever.... but should ( if u want) be a fab day out.
Ive entioned this to a few peeps alreay, both from this forum and at JJ meets, the replys have been generally favourable , which has enboldened me to put the idea before you all :oD
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Sounds like the best plan so far, :) I will be well up for it :) Will post on the Riser Raptor forum now :)
DC
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Sounds like fun, count me in!
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Sounds like my sort of day and think Clive will be up for it too
Well done Q
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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Why tin the past 2 years has the planning been last min :P
we started planning this early last year :s
DC
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Thought this was goin to be in Cardiff this time ??? or I have missed something ???
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It is if you read the the top of the first post
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It is if you read the the top of the first post
Yeh i gathered that but when and why did it change ???
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SNuD I think it changed because no one was actually doing anything to organise it for Cardiff, So by Q setting a place in london (easy to get to, everyone know where it is) it kicks of capital bocking :)
DC
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Oh! I C! thought Locky was doing it? There doesn't seem to be any hint that there is nothing going on or not already been sorted and no one as asked locky? :Cconfused:
Anyway, (easy to get to, everyone knows where it is)?? What do you think Cardiff is :Cyes: Capital city :Cyes:
Not to mention a 100mile closer to me!!!!!! :Ctwitcy:
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Think is Snud, Matt is very busy and as per usual im sure hes just too busy to organise anything at the moment, i may be wrong (if i am correct me matt) but the last CB that was in cardiff took so much organising im not sure if matt would like to take that on again
just my 2p's worth
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I'm not sure where exactly and I'm too lazy to dig up old posts but I have stated that I'm not able to organise it in Cardiff this year. This is due to some personal problems happening in my life at the moment that take priority over bocking unfortunately.
There is no reason we couldnt do cardiff again, as per 2008. I might be able to organise something with the council here but I wont be able to sort out camping and certainly not the plans of having a massive indoor area like I first hoped.
That said, if someone wants to go ahead and organise it somewhere else then go for it.
Personally, I dont see the need to keep it in a capital city. It's about the bocking so the things we require is a perfect spot for bocking for over 100 people and somewhere with good transport links. I still think we need to arrange something incase the weather is bad but that's something else entirely.
For whats its worth, I do not think hiring a sports hall is adequate for CB. Even something like the lincoln events got a bit manic once numbers hit 40.
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hi, bax again.
OK my post has been up for about 24 hours. Maybe a bit quick for to properly summerise responces but Im gonna anyways.
We got some YIPYIP YAYS and some confused shoe gazing and some 'wot ? but I thought?...'
I would like things to lead off positive and not some mumbling debate :Csmile:
I think a big central meet is a good idea , tho I think ( but maybe next year) we should be trying to have a few big meets around the country. But really thats another thread.
Yes CB could be anywhere, but start that debate now? Time is flying a lil. NO place in the country is gonna b perfect. SNuD , agreed Cardiff is 100 miles nearer for u, but how much closer timewise is it than to London?
Yes a gym would get manic. Also even if the weather were pants, the air temp would still b high ...result a bl**dy hot room.
If we are going to have a CB event it needs desiding on soon if not NOW. Ive set out a plan. Its not fabulous, but it will be fun and its also something to build on. More so in the latter case cos Ive already had peeps asking to help. And I think thats really good and needed, a solid base of people who do , not much, but some solid work and build a knowledge group of people who will organise stuff. Doing these things really doesnt take alot of effort, tho sometimes alot of nerve and b*lls
Im propossing an event, a real one, not 1 we might have or really want but 1 that can happen no probs ( well yeah some)
ON more practical level, Ive kept on with the minimal work needed , and popped round to local railway station. Now last August railways in the south had a weekend offer....anywhere return for £10! Now , if repeated, that would make this a v affordable event ( I think similar stuff was repeated by other rail companies).
I asked at the info desk if the deal would be repeated. I got the reply 'I bloody well hope not, it was chaos!!'. Well less than helpfull , but Ill keep on asking.
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I am now understanding! Thought It was already half sorted for Cardiff and was getting dragged kicking and screaming down the smoke. :Cwideeyed: so that bits cwl then!
HOWEVER! :Cmad:
It a weekend too blooming early! I don't get back off me hols (Volcanoes permitting) until the 15th... an I really wanted to go. :Ccry:
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I have little interest in Capital bocking if it's going to be in London again this year. I think really it should move locations each year to keep it varied and interesting, and perhaps open it up to more people. The past 3 years it's been more towards the south end of the country, perhaps it should be shifted in more a northerly direction to make it easier for those "oop north" to attend, as last year it there was a definite lack of anyone other than pinhead who came from any further north than Norwich way (Although that may also have been because it was rather last minute and nothing on the scale of 2008 in Cardiff)
However, I'm not willing to get involved in organising it this year either as I simply don't have the time right now, and it looks unlikely I will even be able to attend. So, y'know, do whatever, just thought I'd throw my opinion in there.
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So that means your organizing an extravaganza next year Sprog :Claugh:
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick :Cbiggrin:
Seems like your the only one with a plan this year Q
So unless anyone else is gonna step forward with an alternative I think we should have a vote of confidence in Q
I for one will be happy to attend a London CB
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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Same a jason i am up for the london CB and it looks like Q has a good picture of CB already
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All Praise Q
Our CB Leader
He guides us out the dark paths that we end up in due to events/meetings going astray.. or in our case he is just wise enough to bring a torch and a long enough rope lol
We All Worship At Your Hoofs :)
I am with Q, Jason and Ashbash4418 for CB to come back home. :)
Im not thinking clearly at the moment due to lack of sleep the last few days.. but this could be a Major event for London. As i am sure there are more major or semi major events that will happen around the country.
I think its a bit childish that people are saying host it near me as its closer for me to get to it.. you dont see tourists saying before they come to london .. cant you bring london over here to us as its easier and cheaper for us to see it..
( you get my point ) plus london has more travel connections and a chance of becoming more noticed..
All it requires is Heart, Soul and a Passion for the Bocking sport ( i wanted to swear there but thought i would use that instead :) )
If we are the happy, jolly, helpful, show off and not to forget mental nutters we all are as a.. i was gonna say community but that aint right.. we are a family of bockers its what sets us aside from the others.. :)
If we Stick to these rules/guide lines at all events even more so at London or other Major events then the word will spread ( call the rules/guide lines what you like )
as was once said in a film.. " if you built it they will come. "
IF we Build our Presence and Keep doing the Same Events then we Might ( hopefully ) become like the Marathon.. WHICH is Only held Round LONDON.. and yet the runners are from as far as USA if not further..
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I'm not arguing with CB being in London. I hope nobody takes offence to this but I probably won't be going, wherever it is. Just because I cannot afford the expense. But, if it was in London I would be more likely to go.
Binop. I',m not arguing your point, just your arguements for it. Besides, I can see the other side. I think it makes sense to move the event around.
Capital bocking is not like the London marathon. Marathons go on all the time around the UK. The London one is just the flagship here in the UK.
CB won't be a major event for London. Not this year. To be anything close to that you would need hundreds if not thousands of people/bockers to attend and unfortunately, it will probably be less than 100 bockers.
I personaly like the idea of it moving. A CB in cardiff appeals more to me than London. I think the idea behind CB was an event for bockers. Not a promotional event for the sport. I'm not sure what word will spread :/
and also, people used to come from the US to CB.
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I have little interest in Capital bocking if it's going to be in London again this year. I think really it should move locations each year to keep it varied and interesting, and perhaps open it up to more people. The past 3 years it's been more towards the south end of the country, perhaps it should be shifted in more a northerly direction to make it easier for those "oop north" to attend, as last year it there was a definite lack of anyone other than pinhead who came from any further north than Norwich way (Although that may also have been because it was rather last minute and nothing on the scale of 2008 in Cardiff)
However, I'm not willing to get involved in organising it this year either as I simply don't have the time right now, and it looks unlikely I will even be able to attend. So, y'know, do whatever, just thought I'd better throw my opinion in there.
Also, here is the other discussion board on it:
http://pp/forum/empty-t6582.0.html
Ii dont have a great deal to disagree with you here Ash. Though as you know I have always been a partisain of London.
I make this proposal very much as a Plan'B' and if others look apon it as 'C' or 'D' Ive no problems with that. I ve put it foreward because there appeared to be nothing else on offer. If others now wish to make new proposals, then great I say.
But as for taking the event to new places, its easy to have a wsh list of the ideal and type it out. But these things rarely happen in a vacuum. Ive suggested a big meet in Derbyshire in the past, as well as a big Bank Hol meet in Portsmouth. But they have not sparked peoples imaginations- so far.
It will be noted that people in the south are trying to 'reach out' to each other. Katie/GIZMOQUEEN has very much been the catalyst for this in the Thames Valley but also Alex/Dark Castles in the south west. We can hope that in time they identify suitable venues and feel confident enough to run large events.
Equally NEWC awhile back met up with the Leeds crowd. This may well continue and expand to include the likes of Troc and the guys on The Whirral plus Sky High. If it does then they too may be shouting out 'come to our MEGA MEET' in not too long.
But these things cant be wished or typed into happening.
AS for size and scale. Im not sure yet we have 'cracked' a 2 day event yet. The weather was cruel in Cardiff in 08. But for some the 2nd day was little more than a photo shoot. Now ideas of a sports event, a treasure hunt or , if in an area like Portsmouth/Southsea , a 'just chilllin out' day (which is pretty much what happened on the Sunday last year).
Im sorry your not able to offer any help this year and even sadder you dont think you will be able to attend. but I do hope other ,newer, people will get involved. because I think the base of this sport needs to be much wider and stronger.
SNuD, hope you got this far :oD. Re dates, Ive given my preferences and reasons. You and any/every1 else please shout out dates you really cant do and dates you are cool with. Hey there is a chance we might find a date we can all agree on.
Spud , sorry you dont think you will be able to come too. But I do very much agree that this event is 'for us' and not aa promotional thing. many of us do this in small ways most every week if the weather is good.
But I feel the momentum should not be lost. With clubs expanding and being created and establishing their own forums there has been , I think, alot less 'higher communication'. I think this is the best place for it. And whilst I want a CB, I dont want people to be too hung up on it. I really do want to see bigger regional events.
Please do let the discusion continue. But , if by the end of this week, it looks like this London proposal is excepted Ill start a new thread specifically for it.
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Only questioning about Cardiff because I thought it was already Half organised for there, my mistake. :P
I'm cool with the smoke! :Cyes:
Though my only resivation is it's a long way from the rest of the country and in these days of stupid fuel prices it unfortunately becomes a major consideration. (OK for you southerners :Cyes:)LOL
And before some wally says it, "I know you can't move London so its central for everyone" ;D
However on a possitive note. the weekend of the 21 22 Aug would be great for me cos I could come and I'll talk some of the other NEWCs and / or Trocs bunch into sharing transport but I can't do the weekend before (14 15) :'(
So the vote from the North East Wales and Chester Jury is London will do, But the weekend of 21 22, Please! :Cbiggrin:
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Cool, in the number cruncher. keep an I on railways. as i mentioned earlier in the south there was an august w/e offer of £10 return. it may b repeated and there may be somat similar from your way
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£10 return. it may b repeated and there may be somat similar from your way
fingers crossed. If there is then thats the way we will come if there is only a couple of us. £150 in the car but I do have 9 seats so thats doable. All depends on the date.... :P
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Plymouth would be fantastic, there is a gym big enough for at least 50 odd... the 'Hoe' in Plymouth is fantastic!!! almost 1 mile of just amazing newly paved flat surface on the sea front amazing veiws :) and all flat :P also next to it there is stairs food, shops etc.... in the middle of town there is a 200m by about 80m open area which is amazing for stilting and the council corner of the area for £50 for a day :p could be worth it :D just an idea for the future :D
DC
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Bl**dy Hell SNuD £150 and 9 seats what on earth are you driving a Hummer :Claugh:
Clive and I did Cardif in a diesel Disco and I think it only cost about £60 all in
That sounds good DC maybe for next year if no one wants to do the middle of the country
Q I will do any date in the summer (hopefully) and I like your sugestion of a treasure hunt as London really lends itself to that as there are loads of statues and plaques to find
Maybe we should just call it London Bocking and hace done with the Capital name and just hold it every year so people can know when it is like the 2nd weekend (or whatever) of June
Then other capitals can hold similar events when they want
There will always be a few that can go anywhere in the country for a meet and there will always be people like me that need to be near home so won't venture to the other end of the country (Cardif is about my limit) so if we have more than one major meet a year it will be a good thing
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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Sounds like a very good idea Q :) But I have never been to a capital bocking, feel a little left out :P
DC
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if i have the money ill come down :)
I think somewhere like birmingham might be a good place to have a big meet
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Don't worry DC I'll hold your hand :Claugh:
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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Lol, I just always wanted to come to Capital Bocking :P Never been :'(
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:PJR: Same and if there is anythin i can do please let me know :PJL:
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Can you clean my shoes :P
DC
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Bl**dy Hell SNuD £150 and 9 seats what on earth are you driving a Hummer :Claugh:
Ha! God I couldn't afford one of them! Na just a Defender. 450 mile round trip, 100 lts @ £1.25 = £125 + tole fees @ £10 each way, grand total £145. Ok I over exagerated! :CGEEK: LOL It's not funny really is it? :Ccry: Still its doable, just if I can fill the motor or if not talk some else into driving!! :Cyes:
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I know its not the same as a big car but when we last hired a minibus to go to the lincoln gym the fuel costs were £260 and if we didn't have emergency funds available we wouldnt have got home.
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At last SNuD you have made my day :Claugh:
A good reason why I own a Disco (other than the price difference) instead of a Defender
2 seats less admitedly but my Diesel can get 30-32 mpg on a steady run
So it would only cost me £82 in Diesel
Still glad you got a Landie though mate
Oh and I just bought another Disco 66000 miles no rust at all (thats the most amazing bit) 13 yrs old and only £2500
Read it and weep :Claugh:
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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Only get 30 with runnin light at about 50. Another 20 mph and a few in side an down it goes! Ha!
Not had it a year yet but love it! Even if it is a thursty monster :Cyes:
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Looks very good mate almost ready for a safari :Cbiggrin:
My neighbours think I have a screw loose as I now have 2 white 300tdi's almost like a His and Hers :Claugh:
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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re treasure hunt in London. for me id be worried about letting juniors off alone in the city. also 1 needs to know stuff about traffic flows and stuff..... dont want DC running in front of a double decker bus or black cab do we? tho for the future we can look out at the possibilities just on the south bank
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re treasure hunt in London. letting juniors off alone in the city.
You could always organise teams on the day. So each team had an Adult to rum in front of the bus first!!! :Claugh:
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but there is another issue, there are alot of sights to see in LNDN. But some r not for the faint of heart or tender of years, some of the back streets around Covent Garden and the like...I think you know what Im saying...wouldnt want the likes of DC led astray or shocked to the core. Im certainly not the 1 to be able to work out a course that avoids such zones
But its adapting things like this, nothing original , that can lift meets. Take what 1 has and just add new bits. Last month we could have had easter egg hunts. We have had fancy dress, haloween meets, powerball.
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Lol Q i lived in london for a few years :P I know the area like the back of my hands :P well used to :D
DC
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Right, went on the Internet to book a ticket to... then I realized, where is it? whats going on with it? what time we meeting? etc. Is it possible to get some finalized details, I'm paying £1 for the bus and can't afford to loose it by booking the wrong place :P
so details please :)
thanks
DC
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about the treasure hunt idea... why not do the london manopoly thingme??? you could do it in teams or just as a big group =]
i dunno if i will be able to go yet... depends on final dates, costs && whether or not i have any moneys.....
x CHAZZLE x
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Surely to save all this arguing about where to hold capital bocking, shouldn't we just move it around each year. Not to any old place, but to where the main groups are, then it goes down to those groups to organise it and where it goes in their area. So one year say the EA bockers organise it between them keeping us all updated and we go to them, then the next say us Riser raptors could do it, then you come to us. That way its not the same person organising it and its not down to one person to do it alone, just spread the load. Also it would, hopefully, end this arguing. If people argue on who does it, then we hold a raffle like thing, we could post a video to prove its a valid raffle etc. Then alls fair. Also, this gets more people involved as some who may not be able to travel to cardiff or london may be able to travel to other areas. :) And ofcourse, this gets more of the public involved, and different public each year :L
Just expressing a pretty spontanious thought :P
Feel free to criticise,
Squeeker
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I like that idea Matt :P
only problem is that it is unfair to groups like TV bockers, the area they are in doesn't seem big enough to hole 100 odd stilters in :S
DC
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But still, is it makes it more fair for more people in my opinion, they would be at no more of a disadvantage as they are now, and if they found a place near them, they could give it a go, and anyways, every group doesn't HAVE to take up the responsibility, groups just volunteer it :P
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The problem with that idea is that some groups don't want to run CB
And some are very small and couldn't afford to organize it
A little bit like me saying why don't you organise CD Squeeker (what group do you belong to by the way)
First year it was just a meet with a planned route (thanks to ET) and new and good fun
We were very lucky that Locky and the welsh bockers did such a good job a couple of years ago
Last year it was a last min thing and although the organisers did a good job it suffered due to being rushed
If we kept it to just a meet with a theme it could be held anywhere and be good fun
Trouble is people now want a CB like the Welsh Bockers gave us and that for most groups is a bridge to far
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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very true :Cfrown:
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I'm with the Riser Raptors, and actually, one of the reasons I said this idea was because I would hapilly give it a go at organising CB :L Preferably with my groups help though :P But with DC I reckon I wouldn't be able to keep him out of it :L Basically my idea would have been what DC said about plymouth a few posts back, and i believe he has crash mats at home that we would be able to bring out if we had car help :L
But as i said earlier, it was a spontanious thought XD
Squeeker
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The problem with that idea is that some groups don't want to run CB
Groups would volunteer anyhows :P
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I am getting confused now, Jason he is in Riser Raptors with me (real name Matt).
Matt Plymouth or even Exeter is not possible, is such a drive for most people, we are the middle of nowhere :P
DC
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Sounds like a plan Squeeker
So what date are you setting as we are in june already :Claugh: and we normaly hold it in june :Cbiggrin:
Or did you mean next year :Cbiggrin:
All kidding aside I would happily come to Plymouth for CB
So why don't we change it to City Bocking that opens a lot more venues
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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Scared Scared Scared :P damn you Squeeker's :P I shall get you for this at the meet tomorrow :P if it is the last thing I do.
Although I would be happy to put forward the Riser Raptors to organize it for next year :)
DC
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Yeah, im happy to help organise for next year :P And yeah, city bocking sounds good, but not as catchy a name :P Maybe National bocking or something like that :P
So what date are you setting as we are in june already :Claugh: and we normaly hold it in june :Cbiggrin:
Isn't it July :L
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Putting 'something' together, isnt actually that difficult. Split things up and think of it as a few small tasks and not 1 BIG DEAL.
Mostly its an expansion of what people already do. Just nice to put 1 or 2 original 'twists'in, more so if 1 goes for a 2 day/weekend event. Finding hotels/camp sites is not much more than a lil bit of googling and emails.
The problems? Well 1 may have no problems when there are 6 , 10 or 15 people bouncing about in a location. But what will authorities do if they suddenly spot 50 + peeps on their cameras ? If 1 doesnt want to go down the official permission route ( that will probably mean getting insurance), then 1 has to be pretty certain to the area is OK.
We are mainly talking about doing these events in large urban areas. Finding the 'somat different' to do on a 2nd day may not be that easy. Whilst budget hotels may be readily to hand, camp sites may not.
So if thinking of running a 'big' event. Start thinking/planning now.
Find your main location and make sure you have a 'history' of using it. Invite other groups/individuals to join you. Builds numbers and acceptability in an area. Gets word out about a place and gives confidence that a big event can be put together ( in both onesself and for others). Also post pix and videos of the 'bock spots'. people know what to expect to see in LNDN Cardiff or Pompy. The guys in Brum and leeds seem to have a good time. But where EXACTLY :Csmile:.
Work out the logistics ( accomodation,free/cheap parking, people to meet visitors at stations, places to get food , loos etc) as I said thats just a bit of googling and then plonking on a google map.
Lots of words, but not really much to do. As always I also like to push the idea of more 'regional' events. In the south here there is a circle of us who are just a couple of hours drive/tain apart at most. With somewhere like Basingstoke an hour or less for a great many of us. So once a month or every 5/6 weeks we really should be thinking of bigger get togethers. And at these meets eventually start trying the treasure hunts, sports events or wotever.
To match this there was the NEWC / Sky High meet a week or so ago. Then from these larger regional meets 1 or 2 BIG events a year might evolve. To jump from rounding up 6-10 people to bounce about 1's own town centre and park for a few hours on a Saturday afternoon to a weekend event for dozens of people is too much for many to contemplate
Bit jumbled up all the above, but hope u get the drift
And lastly dont be intimidated by the 'legend of Cardiff 'o8' A great event ( which even the weather couldnt quite dent). But , it was an amazing venue, with loads of people...that was the main thing. The camp site , sorry gotta b said ranks ( in my 30 odd years of camping --the tent type b4 Toddy makes a comment) v near possibly at the bottom, erm 1 gents toilet and that had no lite bulb ( possibly a blessing, cos it ment u couldnt quite tell how insanitary the place was :Cyes:)...I did complain ( think I was told somat like 'live with it'), bar ( only amenity) closed at 8....as I mentioned above camp sites in urban areas R ' problematic'.
IF a 2 day event cant be sustained annually ( or bi annually) then sorry dismiss as history...cos what is needed is a sustainably sport.
But 2 day events can b done, maybe relearned how to do. Certainly a 2nd day will be 'difficult' to fill entertainingly. Das why peeps should keep throwing up ideas ( and others shouldnt kneejerkingly say no) and 1 or to from the resultant menu may fit
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I'm thinking, it might be worth research in your area, if you think about holding a large even, I may do that, get into contact with possible sponsors, and the council to see what could be done etc.
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I actually love Squeekers idea and even if local groups dont want to host CB or might not have the manpower to host it, at least the opportunity is there if they wish to.
Also different people in different area will have local authorities willing to be involved (some less and some more than others). In Cardiff we had none and we made do.
I dont think having it central is needed. Sure Plymouth is down south and not very practical for people in Leeds or up Scotland but thats fine. They would have the chance for it to be local to them another year. I'd happily come to Plymouth for the weekend. Personally I think anyone who has a car and isn't willing to drive 4 hours to get to a big event like this is really holding themselves back. It's really worth the effort and great to meet everyone and get together and get some bocking done.
I agree with Q for once, the location is important and if CB was at a smaller area for bocking then I think a closer eye needs to be kept on the numbers attending.
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I like it too. The last couple of CBs have been a little rushed or desperate imo and I think the reason is because there is an expectation for somebody else to do it. I think sharing it out would be a great idea.
Suggestion:
Each year groups volunteer themselves to host CB. Stick group names in a hat and see who is drawn out. If a group hosts a CB then they are not allowed enter again for say 2 years to give everybody a chance to host it.
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Good idea for next year, but I think we need to sort this year first... To be honest I would love to come to Cardiff, even if it's just a small day out
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I think we could arrange a meet up in cardiff for the summer. Not anything on the scale of CB but I know sprog, becky and athoul want to arrange a day to come down so no reason why anyone else who wants to come cant come down.
It would have to be arranged properly though. This time of year the oval basin where we bock is used a lot for festivals and its either full of stalls or totally fenced off so I'd need to talk to cardiff events and tie it in on a day when the basin was free.
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Now the NEWCs would like to come to Cardiff, :Cyes:
Providing it didn't clash with people on their Summer Hols. Namely me! LOL :Claugh:
Keep us posted particularly when you have a date so I can drum up support and fill the car..
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That would be good if this year you could just get a date and then anyone can turn up, but try and get the date a fair amount in advance please :) Train tickets and all. I would happily come down, and I reckon a fair amount of us Riser Raptors would want to as we are starting to want to go to new areas to Bock in :L
Squeeker
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Id happily come down
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I got quite a few that would be happy to come :) should be driving soon so could bring a few Riser Raptors with me :P all depends on the date now ... you got a rough idea?
DC
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I shall call cardiff council events team tomorrow and see if they can check the diary. I need to chase them for some money anyway :)
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Why thank you, would be nice, never been to Cardiff :O
(Squeeker) I guess Daryl has no choice but to come up if it's Wales :P might be able to crash at his house for the night :D
DC
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(Squeeker) I guess Daryl has no choice but to come up if it's Wales :P might be able to crash at his house for the night :D
DC
Too right :P
Squeeker
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Ok this sounds good I'm with alex and Squeeker in the Raptors.
Anyhooo I am definately up for goin cardiff just need to know when
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Ashbash, check this out.
http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=4788
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any word on dates????
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Hey, I've been out of the circle for a while. I would really be up for coming to Cardiff at some point. Also I think its great to spread CB between organizations etc etc. However I do think that if a few partys want to hold CB some kind of vote or diplomatic way of choosing the location should be thought of.
I hope to hear from you all at some point soon.
Mark
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Ahoy all,
I'm a bit late to the party myself; am I right in understanding that nothing has been arranged yet? Yegods, it was only two years ago (nearly to the day: the 22nd) we had a smashing time in Cardiff.
If no-one's doing anything, we could have a jamboree in Birmingham, as at least that's within reasonable distance from everyone, and the city centre has improved a fair bit, though it would be without any of the structure or organization of proper CB meets, which means it would probably suck.
Discuss.
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CB08 was the 19th and 20th actually so it really was 2 years to the day!
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Stop trying to steal it off London, you've already got that big Cardiff meetup!
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Stop trying to steal it off London, you've already got that big Cardiff meetup!
That's scheduled for the 21st, but Locky was told recently that the basin was being used, so they're doing something in October but nothings been confirmed. I guess if the London lot don't do anything we'll have to claim the October/Cardiff thing as "Capital Bocking Belated 2010"
For a moment there I was wondering if I was missing out on anything.