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YOUR JUMPING STILTS => Problems and solutions => Topic started by: Jason on March 23, 2007, 11:53:35 PM
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The white plastic packers fell out of my PJ's after about 1 hors use but I think I've solved the prob
I cut the side out of a 5 gallon water container and shaped it as in pics taped it from above so it is more secure
If it works tomorrow and anyone is interested I'll post some more info & pics
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A better pic to explain
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not bad idea at all........so...hows its preformance? ;D
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I only got about 15 mins on them today due to rain and having a bad cold (joints ache befor starting let alone after )
But they have stayed put and hav'nt deformed at all
Also the old white ones seemed to rub and leave white dust and these don't
I'll try again tomorrow and report again
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Oh by the way I only did one to see if there was any difference in performance between them
I found no probs I coudn't tell which was which while walking or jogging (thats a I get after about 1 hour total time so far )
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i like this idea. it saves takin the springs off. always have respect for anyone who can save time.
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Thanks nice to feel appreciated
I went out on them yesterday fro about 40mins mainly walk some jogging and small jump or two (not very good yet)
the new packer is still good so it works short term
long term only time will tell
pic of the sort of drum I cut the plastic from but any hard wearing plastic of the right thickness should do
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and the actual shape to cut
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a better pic of the underside
I think that more than explains it
If anyone else trys it let me know if it stand up to more vigerous use as a beginner I can't realy give them a good test
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the man with a plan, i stuck cardboard down mine, didnt think of trying plastic from something like that
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what about a small strip of alluminium.....or would that do bugger all for the shock???
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Ally tends to workharden it you keep hitting it and then fracture so it would work first off but then might fracture or splinter might not be good for the springs
If you have trouble finding thick enough or tough enough plastic I thought of using old 2 litre drink bottles cut into strips and folded until thick enough then cut to the shape in the pics and taped in the same
I'm pretty sure the drink bottles are made of lexan the same stuff as bullet resistant windows so it should survive well
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I tried the bottle idea and although possible it's a real pain so thin therefore lots of layers to cut out
some alternatives to the 5 gallon drum might be
Plastic tool boxes ( some cheep ones are made of good plastic but some are rubbish choose carefully )
Tupperware ( if you dont know what tupperware is ask your Mum or Nan they might even have some )
Video or Dvd cases ( might need two layers as it's thinner)
Just thought the recycle bins that the council supply might do (recycle a recycle bin)
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( if you dont know what tupperware is ask your Mum or Nan they might even have some )
hahaha
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Hey guys
We are working on a long term fix for this issue and Jason thanks for the measures you are taking yourself...
If any of you have the 1st gens bocks that came in the UK, you will know that the white plastic bit was not in the original design and they implemented this as a shock absorber and also to reduce the noise levels for the 2nd gen design. On original tests done they were certain that this was a move forward to a better stilt giving better performance and also protecting the spring from hard impact. However we are aware this has caused some people problems where by their plastic bit is coming out.
At Pro-Jump we pride ourselves on our customer service and we know that the white plastic bit has caused some of you problems however this isn’t a problem exclusive to Pro-Jump but also include Fly Jumper and Powerizer models that have the same issues – sometimes it seems to be suggested on the forum that this is just a Pro-Jump fault which is incorrect. However Pro-Jump WILL do something about it for our customers and will also try to help out those affected by it who have purchased their stilts from other suppliers.
We don’t have many calls regarding this, however after talks with many forum users & extreme bockers it has come to our attention that it is something that users are worried about and we have been working on a modified replacement part the last few weeks with our own designers to resolve the matter. The sample is currently been made to our specifications and we are really pushing this through as a high priority.
Before you all ask when, / how much etc – I will go on to say that I did not want to make this public until we had the sample in our hands. it had been tested, and they were produced & in stock ready for posting out, however I know if I am upfront with you – you will appreciate it more so here goes:
WHEN - The sample is being created as we speak and our design team are going to be testing it within a week. If all tests go through successfully and it can be implemented simply, we will start manufacturing sufficient quantities to cover our customers and those who may need it – our estimate is 3 weeks but as you know it all depends on tests / production times so please bare with us & I’ll keep you posted.
HOW MUCH – As this mod is something that Pro-Jump have designed and producing, our customers will be getting these sent out to them free of charge. Once they are ready I will post on forums and across our sites and customers will just have to email in with their order number & details and a part will be sent out straightaway. We do realise the people who have Fly Jumpers & PoweriZers also have these problems and we are willing to get extra in so you will be able to purchase some. We will keep prices down and they should cost no more than a few quid hopefully.
WILL IT BE HARD TO FIX ON – The design that is worked on will be a straight forward mod which shouldn’t take more than a few mins to fix on and will be a direct replacement for the current part – it is similar to the current part but modified so that it does not move out of place.
Ok guys that’s it for now – I’ll do my best to keep you updated.
But we are doing something about it so watch this space!
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Now thats what I call customer service nice one
While your at it any chance of looking into supplying those cuffs that they have in germany they look so easy to put on and I have large feet that are hard to get through the hoops at the top
Ps only had them 2 weeks and having lots of fun with my PJ's Thanks ;D
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Hi
Thanks Jason - Great to hear you are having fun! Keep it up & we want to see you on them so get some pics up!!
Regarding the Cuffs - they are currently unavailable in the UK but I will look into it - as far as I'm aware they should fit on Pro-Jumps too but don't quote me on that :P
I think with regards to new generation stilts the knee pad design may be changed :)
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i mentioned some months ago about cutting a plastic bucket etc to the shape ot the t, if you make it a little longer in length and the t a little wider slide it thrugh downward with the t shape at the top that will give you room to get a snap tie/pull tie around the spring pull it tight around the t shape and mine has not moved since december, hope thats of some help, if you ignore it as i nearly did when mine fell out for the first time, you take away the shock absorber and well you know the rest, it took me a few days to realis how imporant the t realy is, not only did it rattle it also puts presure on you spine with the recoil, and can give you a nasty headache after some time.
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I've done about an hour and a half on the packer I made from the drum so I took it out to check it
It took all of 10 seconds to get out
It seems to have worn a little bit nothing serious so I put it back in
took about 1 min including tapeing it so it seems to work
might need to replace them periodicaly but there cheep and easy to put on
I replaced the other one at the same time and the original PJ one seemed to have worn almost as much
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The back ones gave up so I replaced all four with the drum ones and it seems to have tightened the action up and improved my ballance
Did my first two foot hops this weekend and managed to get up of the floor tonight with the help of a broom handle one day I'll do it without ;D
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that was a very long and very interesting read. Cant wait to get the little buggers.
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only put it on one side? as i noticed there is ts on both sides
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I replaced both sides and I spray both sides when they squeek it seems to easy the action
I just replaced all the bearings and forgot to spray the packers they squeeked and were so tight I got a sort of juddering action a quick spray and they are fine now
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do the gen 1's or gen 2's have the white plastic stuff my freinds have gen 1 and i have gen 2 and i cant see a white plastic thing on myne so dont know if its fallen out but ther not makin much noise if they have
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do the gen 1's or gen 2's have the white plastic stuff my freinds have gen 1 and i have gen 2 and i cant see a white plastic thing on myne so dont know if its fallen out but ther not makin much noise if they have
They should have them ! :o
They stop the joint rubbing on the spring !
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nope nothink there on either of them i dont think there was when i got them lol
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One of my white plastic bricks fall out minuets after I started walking on them ! :o
I taped them in now ! 8)
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the 1st gens didn't have the plastic t shape so you may have them :-\
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i dont think i even got white bricks im quite gd at noticin random things like that, like i noticed my freinds had the gen 1s n i had gen 2s n had to explain it too them their quite slow took awhile for them to catch on what bit was different lol. myne dont seem to be makin anyweird noises so im assuming there ok i may put sumithink in ther to be safe at sumpoint will probs do it when i freshen up the tape on my springs and spray them for london
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are the gen ones the ones that are straight into the hoove or the ones with the slight curve bit before hand. the metal round the spring goin to my hoove is completly flush and straight
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are the gen ones the ones that are straight into the hoove or the ones with the slight curve bit before hand. the metal round the spring goin to my hoove is completly flush and straight
The plastic brick should be between the spring and the rubber that cover it ( rubber streches and why they fall out :/ ).
If you have the little green manual it goes behind ' Part 7 ' ( repair manual ). It's not show but that's where it goes !
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are the gen ones the ones that are straight into the hoove or the ones with the slight curve bit before hand. the metal round the spring goin to my hoove is completly flush and straight
This post shows the difference
http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=554.0
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Any update on the solution yet??
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Now available :)
Please email dan@ukgooddeals.com with your original order number, name & address for replacements
thank you
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Hello
One of my T bars fell completely out which i have managed to fit back in ok..... however when i looked at the other Stilt... the T bar at the back of it, it seems to have dropped and not falling out as the rivets seem to be stopping it fall out, is the T bar supposed to be pushed back up or left as it is? I have tryed to push it back up with a screwdriver but isnt budging. Does this mean i have to take the spring off? and if so is it easy to do?
Cheers peeps..... gonna make some of my own i think...... tape and Glue FTW
Shaz ;)
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what i did was i got one of those pro jump info cards folded it up and in blue peter fashion grabbed some pva glue coated it with it so it went half then slotted it in place and then put tape around it and it hasnt moved since =)
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Pro-Jump Info Card... Ahem Ahem aren't u meant to hand those out to potential new bockers!
Replacements are available from us by emailing Dan@ukgooddeals.com with your name, address and order number
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it was a old one that had been in my bag for a long time dont worry but it did a really good job :D
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Don't go giving people ideas lol ;D
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I can't find a invoice with my order number on it, does it mean I have to pay for mine?
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PM me ur postal details -Ill see what we can do
:)
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OH SNAP! dats wot dat rattling sound is?
ive had a probs wiv my left stilt afters a few hours use but cudnt figure wot it woz!
ur f**kin ace man! cheers
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Hey,
There are actually a few things that might be causing the probs. If spacers are not missing then this isnt the prob, but just check they are not loose.
Most people's bocks develop a click after a few hours. Check all the bolts and stuff are done up tight (but not too tight) and see if that sorts it. But I would say the most likely cause of the problem is with bushings. If they are plastic they wear pretty quick. Its not a huge problem but bocks feel nicer if they are solid so you might wanna get some new ones.
A guy called Jason on here makes his own special ones. But unless you can do that there is no real solution. Although, I do recall a thread about gluing them in.
:spudT:
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Spud is right about checking the washers. But if that is the problem I don't think that it's wise to glue them together as they are a load bearer washer and wouldn't last.
Here's a topic about these washes.
http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=983.0
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Dk, this is the thread I was looking for.
http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1271.15
Not quite glue, resin. But it seems if you do it right the results are good.
And just so people don't get confuzzled...
(http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=983.0;attach=886;image)
^^^^bearings/bushings
(http://www.boltmotorcyclehardware.com/images/washers.gif)
^^^Washers
And I found the topic about the bushings/bearings Jason made.
http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=826.0
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I have a big bag of various thickness packers Benny I will stick them in my bag for the weekend and see if we can stop your rattle :Claugh:
Jason :Hoofies2: :CGEEK:
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much appreciated jason!!!
I look forward to my first group sesh. shud be good!
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you could use a milk bottle as well but you will have to use more than 1 layer
jordan :Cyes:
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hi
having probs wiv my jumps, ive noticed my white spacer is there but its rite up in the spring cover n was wondring if i just taped another bit so its under the black tube bit ( i dnt no wot is reil called lol )
at the mo im very unstablie since ive changed the spring n ive tried every thing ppl ave sed lol
all part of the fun x
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Your instability will not be anything to do with the white spacer but if you are worried about it then please take a pic and post it up so we can see.
As for your jumping it usually just comes down to practice practice and more practice but again if you can get a video of you jumping then we should be able to offer some tips :)
Welcome to the PJ forum!
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OH SNAP! dats wot dat rattling sound is?
ive had a probs wiv my left stilt afters a few hours use but cudnt figure wot it woz!
ur f**kin ace man! cheers
On mine its the left one too, and the white thing is in so what should i do? just pack it with more bit of card and stuffs?