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YOUR JUMPING STILTS => Before you buy questions => Topic started by: Cloggy on November 24, 2008, 11:12:31 AM

Title: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Cloggy on November 24, 2008, 11:12:31 AM
Hello all, Hope someone can help me.
My son George or 'Cloggy' joined the forum yesterday, (with a bit of help from me!), he was worried that the 50kg Pro-Jump stilts he was after were only available in Pink! As suggested by 'SX Nutta' I rang them and they were nice people, however they do not have any other colour but pink in stock until way after xmas.
Now 'rickbicker26' suggested I go for the 60kg, but Rebecca who I spoke to at Pro-Jump thought they'd be too much for Cloggy - he weighs just over 6 stones.
I'd like to know you guys and gals opinions, or anywhere else I can get them from. I found this on the net...
There are 3 main companies producing lower cost powerbocks for hobbyists. Fly Jumpers, PoweriZers (now also called PowerStriders) and Pro Jumps are some of the range of identical models produced by one company in China. Poweriser brand powerbocks are produced in Korea. 7 League Boots are produced by an Austrian company and are the most expensive of the non-pro brands.
...is this true?
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Spud on November 24, 2008, 12:20:38 PM
Hi,
we had a simular question a little while back. Sprog is the expert  :thumbs:

ProJump sell "ProJump Stilts", which are FlyingLocust. PoweriZer, FlyJumper, AirTrekker, SpeedJumper and JollyJumper are all FlyingLocust stilts. Hope this helps :)

They are the names for the bocks that are exactly the same as Pro-jumps. Powerisers are different and they do come from a different factory. 7's are a fair bit different to all the other brands. The springs are more responsive.

Your best bet is to do some googling and see where you can find them

 :spudT:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Dark Knight on November 24, 2008, 12:22:40 PM
What age,weight and hight is he ?
Jnr stilts have about half the power of the adult pairs and if he's growing then maybe he may need bigger ones ?
With Jnr sizes 10Kg over would last but if it's a case that he could fit in an adult pair of his weight then they  may last longer ?
Without details it's hard to know ?
This link should also help you :thumbs:

http://www.projumpforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1054.0
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: sprog on November 24, 2008, 01:39:43 PM
There are 3 main companies producing lower cost powerbocks for hobbyists. Fly Jumpers, PoweriZers (now also called PowerStriders) and Pro Jumps are some of the range of identical models produced by one company in China. Poweriser brand powerbocks are produced in Korea. 7 League Boots are produced by an Austrian company and are the most expensive of the non-pro brands.
...is this true?
That sounds very much like something I wrote, or plagarized from something I've written, so yes it's true ;D

Just over 6 stone is about 39-41kg, which means he's right on the border between the F30's (30-40kg) and F40's (40-50kg). I'm assuming as you mentioned pink you are considering buying the junior pairs, and he'll need F50's ideally.
How tall is he? If he's under 5ft there is no point in buying him M60's (Adult frame) as he won't be able to use them. Between 5' and about 5'3" you'll need to make a few modifications for him to be able to use them, which basically involves raising his foot up by placing a platform on the footplate (Where you stand). This can be done with wood, flip-flops, really whatever you have lying around that will provide a solid even surface that can be fixed down. Over 5'3" and he'll be able to use adult frames no problem (although at 41kg that'll make him really thin, so you'll have to pad out the kneebars for him using pipe insulation, or get calf cuffs).

Having no idea of his size and a rough estimate on his weight, I'm going to suggest you go for the F50's, junior pair. HOWEVER, I think that George should wait until he has grown and fits the adult frames. The junior bocks are no way near as bouncy, and due the shorter spring with sharper curvature, it means the springs are a lot stiffer and harder to use. However, if he wants them he can learn on them and then progress to the adult frames when the time comes, I think he might just be a bit dissapointed with the kids models though.

Sadly I can't link to other sites due to the forum policy *shakes fist at webmaster* so I'll send you a sneaky PM with a lot of info ;)
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: 0o0matthew0o0 on November 24, 2008, 05:26:47 PM
i weigh about 44kg and am on 60s and just brought new 60s Go For 60es
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Mini Ellis on November 24, 2008, 06:07:45 PM
There are 3 main companies producing lower cost powerbocks for hobbyists. Fly Jumpers, PoweriZers (now also called PowerStriders) and Pro Jumps are some of the range of identical models produced by one company in China. Poweriser brand powerbocks are produced in Korea. 7 League Boots are produced by an Austrian company and are the most expensive of the non-pro brands.
...is this true?
That sounds very much like something I wrote, or plagarized from something I've written, so yes it's true ;D

Just over 6 stone is about 39-41kg, which means he's right on the border between the F30's (30-40kg) and F40's (40-50kg). I'm assuming as you mentioned pink you are considering buying the junior pairs, and he'll need F50's ideally.
How tall is he? If he's under 5ft there is no point in buying him M60's (Adult frame) as he won't be able to use them. Between 5' and about 5'3" you'll need to make a few modifications for him to be able to use them, which basically involves raising his foot up by placing a platform on the footplate (Where you stand). This can be done with wood, flip-flops, really whatever you have lying around that will provide a solid even surface that can be fixed down. Over 5'3" and he'll be able to use adult frames no problem (although at 41kg that'll make him really thin, so you'll have to pad out the kneebars for him using pipe insulation, or get calf cuffs).

Having no idea of his size and a rough estimate on his weight, I'm going to suggest you go for the F50's, junior pair. HOWEVER, I think that George should wait until he has grown and fits the adult frames. The junior bocks are no way near as bouncy, and due the shorter spring with sharper curvature, it means the springs are a lot stiffer and harder to use. However, if he wants them he can learn on them and then progress to the adult frames when the time comes, I think he might just be a bit dissapointed with the kids models though.

Sadly I can't link to other sites due to the forum policy *shakes fist at webmaster* so I'll send you a sneaky PM with a lot of info ;)

im 5ft and im fine with the adult frames :P

Mini Ellis xxx
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Spud on November 24, 2008, 06:19:49 PM
Yes, but look at your sig, The back of the spring digs in to the back of your leg. Does me too but I cant be bothered to fix it lol

 :spudT:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: 0o0matthew0o0 on November 24, 2008, 06:21:14 PM

Quote

im 5ft and im fine with the adult frames :P

Mini Ellis xxx

Your shortter then that
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: 0o0matthew0o0 on November 24, 2008, 06:22:23 PM
Yes, but look at your sig, The back of the spring digs in to the back of your leg. Does me too but I cant be bothered to fix it lol

 :spudT:

What a lot of people do is Put sponge there so it doent hurt.
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Mini Ellis on November 24, 2008, 06:26:17 PM

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im 5ft and im fine with the adult frames :P

Mini Ellis xxx

Your shortter then that

Nope im 5ft :D unlucks

and spud stilts digging in happens to most people i new a guy the other day who was getting on for at least 5ft 7/8 and his stilts dig in the back of this legs, its just one of those things, so you either put foam on the tops of the springs or on the footplates to make u taller...

fixed =]

Mini Ellis xx
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jack on November 24, 2008, 06:27:16 PM
if ur worried bout the spring bein to hard ask pro-jump if they have any lighter adult springs like 55 or sumthin cus thatd probs be better
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Greggles on November 24, 2008, 06:30:44 PM
my springs digg in to the bk of my legs and im 5'10.5" but it only happens when i do checks but i thnk thats just coz i have cuffs
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Spud on November 24, 2008, 06:31:28 PM
I know but if you are a much inder 5ft it's actually going to be in the back of your knees a lots of the time of the time. I know loads of people have it but there is a point where you can cope/fix it and where it actually makes bocking difficult

 :spudT:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Mini Ellis on November 24, 2008, 06:33:16 PM
so are you saying because they dig in to buy junors...?? or what ? because the top of the spring in the back of my legs really dnt bother me

Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jack on November 24, 2008, 06:34:19 PM
sorry to go off topic but does anyone know what happened to the paint !?
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Spud on November 24, 2008, 06:43:18 PM
so are you saying because they dig in to buy junors...?? or what ? because the top of the spring in the back of my legs really dnt bother me



Ah..you are never going to get my point lol. You are 5ft. Its fine. I was when I got my bocks and its no real big shakes. But the shorter you are the higher the spring is on your leg. There will be a point, and its probably only a couple of inches or so where the back of the spring will be in the back of your leg all of the time. Its not too bad at 5ft but it could be a problem if you are much shorter.

he only weighs 6kg, I cannot imagine that he is very tall. There is also only so much padding or what not to raise the footplate.

Do you understand what I mean now?

 :spudT:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: sprog on November 24, 2008, 06:59:15 PM
if ur worried bout the spring bein to hard ask pro-jump if they have any lighter adult springs like 55 or sumthin cus thatd probs be better
You can't get M55's. They only go in 10kg increments.

he only weighs 6kg, I cannot imagine that he is very tall. There is also only so much padding or what not to raise the footplate.
You are right Spud, you can only raise the footplate about 1" otherwise there is nothing to stop your foot moving back and forth.

im 5ft and im fine with the adult frames :P

Mini Ellis xxx
Yeah but you're weird :P
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jack on November 24, 2008, 07:02:51 PM
if ur worried bout the spring bein to hard ask pro-jump if they have any lighter adult springs like 55 or sumthin cus thatd probs be better
You can't get M55's. They only go in 10kg increments.

yh but they vary slightly so some are heavier and some are lighter ask them specifically for some slightly lighter ones.
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Mini Ellis on November 24, 2008, 07:20:15 PM
if he only weights 6kg i can imagine hes VERY short but just becuase u dnt weight much dnt mean to say that u have to be short, but i see what you mean

Mini Ellis xx
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: sprog on November 24, 2008, 07:21:32 PM
yh but they vary slightly so some are heavier and some are lighter ask them specifically for some slightly lighter ones.
They come out the factory with 30, 40, 50, 60 etc written on the bottom. None will have 55.
I'm 99% certain ProJump do not test every pair of stilts they have to see what the optimum weight is for them, nor do they look for lighter or heavier ones and specifically ship them out depending on the user's weight. ProJump don't make, assemble or test the stilts. That's all done in China by FlyingLocust.
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jack on November 24, 2008, 07:24:19 PM
well i saw a post ages ago were some1 wanted 120s but PJ dont make 120s nemore so he asked them for some heavier 110s they sent him some 116s...
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Spud on November 24, 2008, 07:24:36 PM
if he only weights 6kg i can imagine hes VERY short but just becuase u dnt weight much dnt mean to say that u have to be short, but i see what you mean

Mini Ellis xx
6KG. I Meant stone lol...

He isnt that old either and we are only really guessing till we know how tall but I still think it will be too short for adults really

Does the number on the bottom of the stilts have anything to do with weight?

 :spudT:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Mini Ellis on November 24, 2008, 07:27:15 PM
yeah thats the spring weight
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: sprog on November 24, 2008, 08:03:55 PM
well i saw a post ages ago were some1 wanted 120s but PJ dont make 120s nemore so he asked them for some heavier 110s they sent him some 116s...
Therefore, you are crazy. :P

yeah thats the spring weight
Indeed it is. M60's have 60 on the bottom, and so on and so forth...
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Spud on November 24, 2008, 08:09:36 PM
yeah thats the spring weight
Indeed it is. M60's have 60 on the bottom, and so on and so forth...

:( I started on knackered 70's which must have been like 50's lol and then went to not knackered 70's...but now apparently they are 78's which is nearly 80's and that sucks and would explain why I find them so stiff

 :spudT:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: chocl8 on November 24, 2008, 08:46:48 PM
yh but they vary slightly so some are heavier and some are lighter ask them specifically for some slightly lighter ones.
They come out the factory with 30, 40, 50, 60 etc written on the bottom. None will have 55.
I'm 99% certain ProJump do not test every pair of stilts they have to see what the optimum weight is for them, nor do they look for lighter or heavier ones and specifically ship them out depending on the user's weight. ProJump don't make, assemble or test the stilts. That's all done in China by FlyingLocust.

Mine have 75 on sprog =]
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: sprog on November 24, 2008, 09:27:39 PM
THE WORLD HAS GONE CRAZY! :o

Every one that I've seen has only had 50, 60, 70 etc.
I guess that I've only seen the bottoms of springs that are exactly on the weight limit. As far as I remember, they are tested in factory and the number on the bottom corresponds to the weight limit. I'm assuming they only test one pair and the rest made from the same resin mix have the same numbers put on the bottom. It could be the numbers show the optimum weight for the spring, which would explain why some don't have 50, 60, 70 etc.
Still, I don't think ProJump are going to go rummaging through every box of F50's until they find a pair with 55 on. I know they're good on customer service, but that's just mad!

I wonder why I've only seen them with numbers going up in 10's :-\
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jack on November 24, 2008, 10:23:00 PM
my old ones were 68, my mates were 72 and my new ones are 82  ;D
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: 0o0matthew0o0 on November 24, 2008, 10:36:07 PM
just a qusetion for clokky or watever is your name(sorry)

Where do you live becasue if someone lives near you mabey they might let you have a go on theres
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Cloggy on November 24, 2008, 11:06:08 PM
Thanks for all the information, especially 'Sprog'. I'm not sure what to do now...I'll have a word with George - 'Cloggy' on the forum - see what he wants to do.
Cheers all! :)
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jason on November 25, 2008, 11:25:53 PM
Sorry Sprog

I've got to agree with Jack here

I've had a set of 123's a set or 119's  in glassfibre

A set of 115's in carbon and I am currently on 2 sets of 114 carbons

I have never owned a set that were an exact multiple of 10   :biggrin:

And just to prove it a pic (I just happen to be re-bushing them  :biggrin:)

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: sprog on November 25, 2008, 11:43:12 PM
Sorry Sprog

I've got to agree with Jack here

I've had a set of 123's a set or 119's  in glassfibre

A set of 115's in carbon and I am currently on 2 sets of 114 carbons

I have never owned a set that were an exact multiple of 10   :biggrin:

And just to prove it a pic (I just happen to be re-bushing them  :biggrin:)

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Oi, no need to rub it in! :haha:
Dunno why I've only seen them in 10's, i'm pretty sure the numbers on the bottoms must be the optimum tested weight :-\
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Spud on November 25, 2008, 11:44:41 PM
I thought the same as you sprog's and my first pair said 70. I assumed that was for the weight catogory but my second pair was 78 ???

And we should rub it in as much as possible. You are not wrong often! I say, do it while you can  :haha:

 :nana:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Sx Nutta on November 26, 2008, 01:15:00 AM
I was sure that the first number, well first 2 numbers when 100+ kgs referred to the weight spring and that last number referred to the hardness of the spring, but naz can put me right if i am wrong
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Dark Knight on November 26, 2008, 02:04:08 AM
I've had a set of 123's a set or 119's  in glassfibre
Jason  :Hoofies2:
The size you had where infact 121's

Powerisers on use whole factors of 10's

I also recall Carlgreen saying that he had 322 writen on a set thou I maybe misstaken about that.
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: darfgarf on November 26, 2008, 11:30:14 AM
mine had 66, which would make sense that that translates to 66kg, as they were M60s
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jason on November 26, 2008, 10:59:45 PM
No DK they are 123's
I checked them again and they definately read 123

My 119's were marked 0119 which I read as 6110 and thought I had got a set of 110's by accident  :haha:(I'll bet the guys and galls at PJ laughed at that one when I called them  :biggrin:) The 0 was there to mark which way it should be read

It makes sence that due to manufacturing tolerances when you make lots of glass springs they are going to vary by a few pounds up or down so I would think that they use a tool similar to the one I have at work that compresses the spring by a certain distance and then read off the poundage and mark them then later they just match them up to ballance the springs

I have made the tool to test my springs every couple of weeks as I tend to use one leg harder than the other so when one spring starts to go soft I just swap the spring and foot section and it evens out the spring and hoof wear thus making the bocks last longer

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Dark Knight on November 27, 2008, 12:03:09 AM
No DK they are 123's
I checked them again and they definately read 123

I just checked and found this !

 Re: new spring but need mega help
« Reply #12 on: 06-08-2007, 21:04:36 » Quote 

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Have a look on the end of them PJ ones have a number on the bottom front (the bit under the bracket that holds the hoof on) mine have 121 on them I weigh 17 stone and had trouble bending them at first
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: jazzyb on November 27, 2008, 06:56:35 PM
i've ordered m70's and im 46kg is that ok?
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jason on November 27, 2008, 10:12:36 PM
You got me there DK  :haha: but the think the mistake was a typo on the first post I'll have another look at them on monday they are at work and I've got tomorrow off  :banana:

You really have got a memory like an elephant  :thumbs: I'm on your team if we ever have a trivial night  :biggrin:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Dark Knight on November 27, 2008, 10:20:41 PM
You got me there DK  :haha: but the think the mistake was a typo on the first post I'll have another look at them on monday they are at work and I've got tomorrow off  :banana:

You really have got a memory like an elephant  :thumbs: I'm on your team if we ever have a trivial night  :biggrin:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
I've a very good retentive memory for facts and figures, just takes time to match names and faces  :-\
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jason on November 28, 2008, 10:31:14 AM
I'm exactly the same with names and faces DK your the tall blond one aren't you  :haha:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Dark Knight on November 28, 2008, 11:10:11 AM
I'm exactly the same with names and faces DK your the tall blond one aren't you  :haha:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Maybe I've no mirror here, arn't the the short well dressed lad with a pony tail.
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Jason on November 28, 2008, 08:42:01 PM
That must be me DK I can't remember but you normally can  :haha:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Title: Re: Pro-Jump stilts for my son..
Post by: Dark Knight on November 28, 2008, 08:49:09 PM
That must be me DK I can't remember but you normally can  :haha:

Jason  :Hoofies2:
Am I correct about the number